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Old 12-25-04, 04:45 AM   #61
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Old 12-25-04, 08:53 AM   #62
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I am wondering why a moderator takes the time to free himself from mod work to being a non-mod. What I mean is I always thought of mods as referees, firemen to put out fires on people. I am surprized you decide when to be a mod and when not to. Here you decide hey lets take Tony down and if enough people can start then I can join the pack. Good to see you take so much interest in me and felt your mod responsibility was on holiday today. Hope this shows how flexiable you are on the responsibility.
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Just calling a spade a spade.. Oh, and incase you didn't notice.. Making a new username is against the sites TOS, so therefore, I WAS BEING A MOD.. But, im sure you realize that, right???? Have anymore usernames you wanna bring out and agree with yourself???

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I have no real issue with you, but being a mod and repeating I agree with you I wonder how much fuel Matt forgot to bring to the fire that you need to join the pecking order.
Im sure everyone on this site can and HAS formed their own opinion Tony.. They don't need anyone to point things out for them, maybe you should give the members a bit more credit..

Judging by your apology, it seems that you honestly feel that you have done nothing wrong in this thread. Im sorry that you feel that way, but maybe you should go back and read everything that people have replied with, you'd be suprised what you'll learn about yourself..

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I have no real issue with you
I see you didn't start your paragraph to me that way, so I assume that you have an issue with me?? I'd love to know what it is, maybe you could send me an email and let me know, or perhaps have Romeo do it..

I find it really funny that you're apologizing for things that make absolutly no sense, and while doing so, calling everyone 'Hyenas'. Way to earn that Respect Tony.

Anyway, I'm done with this thread now, everyone has brought up very valid points, even for being Hyenas.. I just wish you could see your fault in all of this.

Time to turn that Mod switch back on..

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Old 12-25-04, 09:43 AM   #63
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Too many lies to keep track of. Like Dan said it catches up to you in the end. Why try to be something you're not. Who are you trying to impress. Stop with the BS be yourself and everything will be fine. The more you try and talk yourself out of your lies the worse it looks.
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Old 12-25-04, 10:35 AM   #64
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If you read my reply to your concern on the rights to the photos you will see I have the concent, but this is another example of joining the hyena pack without the facts.

I don't think I was being rude or disrespectful in either of my prior post on this thread.

I find you're being rude and disrespectful when you post and copyright a picture that is not yours. Consent does not give you the right to claim a photo as your own. Maybe you should learn the facts about copyrighting before you go and shoot your mouth off.

Then give some crap about the Motley in your collection that you don't own the right to post photos of; I thought you always claim the rights to the pics of animals you purchase.

Maybe if you start another thread about boa morphs in Canada you should ensure the ones you post are actually IN Canada. Or maybe you can start a thread about what you would buy if you had a million dollars then you wouldn't be caught in any lies. BTW now I am being rude and disrespectful.

See ya and I definitely wouldn't wanna be ya.

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Old 12-25-04, 11:56 AM   #65
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We are here to moderate the site, as well as partake as members, and as Matt said, creating alternate accounts like that isn't permitted on the site. There aren't really any flames as such to extinguish (as of yet), the members are simply voicing their concerns and questions, as they have a right to. Most everyone has asked legitimate questions and remained within the TOS to this point, and hopefully it stays that way. When a business person puts themself in the limelight, then the public has every right to ask questions they may have. If you don't wanna be placed in the spotlight, then don't put yourself there
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Old 12-25-04, 01:31 PM   #66
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MATT K:

I am wondering why a moderator takes the time to free himself from mod work to being a non-mod. What I mean is I always thought of mods as referees, firemen to put out fires on people. I am surprized you decide when to be a mod and when not to. Here you decide hey lets take Tony down and if enough people can start then I can join the pack. Good to see you take so much interest in me and felt your mod responsibility was on holiday today. Hope this shows how flexiable you are on the responsibility.
It's funny how everyone is always so quick to jump down Matt's throat for being involved. Are we as mods expected to just sit back and not get involved? Are we supposed to just be here to babysit everyone? No, we are here for the same reason as everyone else. It seems a lot of people forget that we are all here for the animals and because we all share a common interest. We aren't here to fight and argue, sure everyone is entitled to their own opinions and everyone isn't expected to agree with eachother and stuff like this is going to happen no matter what.

I'll tell you all right now this place wouldn't be the same without Matt or any of the other mods for that matter. Always trying to please everyone and seems like there is no appreciation.


I hope everyone is having a great Christmas and I hope there are going to be lots of pictures posted.

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Old 12-25-04, 02:51 PM   #67
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Old 12-25-04, 10:43 PM   #68
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This is a really sad post...... Who care's if the animals are really his (which I beleive they are)there nice pics and all you have to do is say, ahhh nice snakes Tony...
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Old 12-26-04, 01:15 AM   #69
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I really dont mind too. Tony is a great forum member and doesn't deserve to be pointed that way. I dont really understand why herp lovers enjoy hitting each others on forums, thats a very silly game.
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Old 12-26-04, 01:18 AM   #70
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I do agree with you both that Tony has always been a great member and has never been pushy/nosy/anything bad. Always respectful, but I think there are some facts you guys are missing.

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Old 12-26-04, 06:12 PM   #71
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I have thought long and hard about whether or not to get involved in this thread. A voice in my head told me to that I had to say something.

For those who have known me on this site for the last few years know that I am no stranger to drama. But this petty piece really takes the cake.

Let me start out by giving you a bit about my personal background. I grew up in the streets of east Vancouver. Where the gap between the haves and have nots is staggering. While on a trip to L.A. I was asked where I was from, to my surprise when I told them Vancouver, their eyes lit up in awww. They told asked me ¡§isn¡¦t that town completely run by gangsters and wannabe gangsters?¡¨ blah blah blah¡K. Anyway¡K. After some careful though it made me think back on some of the things I¡¦ve witnessed in the past and how money and politics bring out the worst in ppl. Through those years I have seen things that make me ashamed to be from East Van and in some cases ashamed to be human. I am not easily moved by the negative actions of people b/c I have been around it my whole life, but for some reason this thread bothered me quiet a bit.

Let me say this, Tony is a great guy and there is really no reason to dummy him here that I can see. Did he post your address online? Did he make fun of your mother? Did he slap your mother? Did he rip anyone of you off? Did he back stab you? Did he say anything defamatory to your character or tell ppl that you sold him snakes that were unhealthy and covered in mites? Did he say you had IBD in your collection? Did he steal your wife? Was he your childhood friend that shot you in the back and put you in a wheel chair? Does he deserve to be crucified at a time when Christ our savior was supposed to be born and when the world is trying, oh so hard, to be in a spirit of harmony and giving?

I will tell you what he did do: he has took the time and energy to make instructions on how to properly pack and ship snakes (with detailed photos), has generously provided husbandry and breeding information, basically spilled his guts to everyone and really asked nothing in return.

I will admit he probably got caught up in the popularity contest that comes with this industry and maybe posted some pics of snakes that are HIS but aren¡¦t in Canada as of yet and some pics he did not take. LOL! Lets curb stomp him for that! Get a grip ppl. I can¡¦t believe that some ppl are such hypocrites and double standard mofos. Who hold the standard so high for others and let their own personal integrity slide.

Okay I am done, sorry that I am a lazy *** typer. This post was not intended to rip into anyone, just to say my part that we really shouldn¡¦t be sweating the small stuff. ¡§Life goes on¡¨ Tonyƒº.

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Old 12-26-04, 07:42 PM   #72
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Old 12-26-04, 07:48 PM   #73
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And that was 2 hours out of his day......

I am still with you all the way buddy
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Old 12-26-04, 09:03 PM   #74
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For the love of god man!

I'm already regretting typing anything more to this stupid thread.

The whole reason I ever set foot in this thread, was that I hoped you'd see my post being from a "friend / respected hobbiest" and would actually think about your actions, quit lying, and quit making new ssnakess.com usernames to come to your aid.

You lied to me personally on msn, you lied to everyone on here. When that didn't work, you tried more lies to cover old lies, and then California Romeo came to your aid. Then you appologized for a bunch of things that had nothing to do with the actual issues at hand. When that didn't work, you start throwing mud at other respected breeders hoping to take the bad light off of you, and put some on to them.

You should have quit on that last apology post.

You claim jealousy causes people to try to add truth to your stories that could use some? This thread will be a good example of why we will get rid of all of our high end boas. Breeding corn snakes was much more fun!

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Hahaha! All I can say is, to all the big losers, sitting on their asses the whole day and typing out stupid replies, GET A LIFE! It's just a dude who does things a li different. No criminal. Dare you to look at yourselves and say you haven't acted just as childish and just as idiotic at time. Don't wanna mention names but a few of you are guilty of ssnakess stupidity just as Tony has, IMO.

And now by saying this, I have officially joined the ranks of Ssnakess Losers Club. Thank you everyone. *exit soapbox*
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