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Old 03-31-04, 05:34 AM   #1
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borneo ST or blood pythons

im adding a new pair to my collection. ive narrowed it down to a blood python or a borneo ST. i was wondering which one is better.
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Old 03-31-04, 08:11 PM   #2
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Better how?
in taste? both probably taste like chicken if cooked properly.
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Old 03-31-04, 08:13 PM   #3
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ok seriously were noy sure what you're asking for.
Coloration? temperment? adult size? etcc...
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder and both species are awesome!
How about keeping what YOU like and not what others deem better.
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i guess i would start off with the temperment of both species.
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what is the difference between the 2 species aside from the size and coloration?

sorry if i ask dumb questions kinda new in this species, im trying to learn more about them before i purchase one and end up not liking it.
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No worries about the questions Cyrus, I just couldn't resit.
As for the Borneo's vs. Bloods not alot of difference in regards to temperment. Both species if acquired as juvenile's can become as docile as a puppy where as sometimes adults are notoriously snappy. Borneo's tend to stay somewhat smaller in adult size than do Blood's. Other than that both species are great.
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What is it specifically you'd like to know about the short-tail group? They are related, although, a study conducted by several albeit, well known herpotologist: J. SCOTT KEOGH, DAVID G. BARKER, and RICHARD SHINE , have since divided the group up and have given the three once considered subspecies, full-species (status) classification. The Sumatran name or moniker, is one that can be confusing if the word is not used in conjunction with either Blood or Short-tail. The two being different animals all together. The Sumatran bloods (Red Bloods),are found in the Northern most part east of the Barrisan mountain range on the Island of Sumatra. Populations can also be found centrally, but again, east of the range of mountains in Sumatra. The species, can become tractable with time, and some work, but known to be less so, as a hatchling or juvie. But, with some work, they eventually calm down, and make wonderful captives. However, as with any snake species, there are those exceptions. Such is the case with the insular populations of the species (Bangka: Island form), and the mainland types (Peninsular Malaysia). The Red Bloods, are the largest of the "Bloods" or Short-tail group, with females weighing as much as 30-40 Lbs, for a full grown adult and males weighing as much as 25-30 Lbs. A full grown female can reach 6-7+ feet, and males can reach as much as 4.5-6 ft.

The Sumatran short-tails or Black Bloods, are the more diminutive of the three bloods described by the erroneous moniker in this case of "blood" (they have the best personality and are the most tractable of the short-tails). The Sumatran Short-tails, are found south and to the west of the Barrisan mountains both inland and to the coast. Their coloration can vary from brown to black depending on the populations regionally, with the southern most animals having the darker or black bodies and heads. The more northern variety of the black bloods or Sumatran short-tails, tend to have the orange to red heads, with lighter body coloration. The Sumatran short-tails, also, are the smallest of the short-tails, with males reaching a diminutive size of only 3-4 ft total and females getting to as much as 4-5 ft total length. Anything larger is the exception and not the rule. Females can weigh as much as 20-25 Lbs, and males 15-20 Lbs.

As for the Borneo Short-tails, they are great pythons, and are quite tractable as babies and juvies. I've yet to encounter a mean one. Although, their are those individuals that have. They are one of my favorites of the species and adapt quite well to captive settings in new homes. They also, don't get quite as large as the Red Bloods, but can be just as stout relative to their size. Females range in size from 4.5-5.5 ft, with weights upwards of 25-30 Lbs. Males reach 4-4.5 ft total, and can weigh as much as 20-25 Lbs. I've heard of some reaching 6ft, but those are the exception. To the west of the island of Borneo over the Kalimantan mountain range there is another small group of short-tails once thought to be a subspecies of the "Curtus" group or Borneo short-tail, called the Sarawak short-tail. We still hold out hope that they will be vindicated and given full subspecies classification, but for now, they are just a geographical variant of the Borneo short-tail. Go figure!
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Old 04-02-04, 03:40 AM   #8
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thses are great information... thanx people....
anyone wants to add more?
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