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03-30-04, 01:51 PM
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No to Drugs (parasite)
rgds
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03-30-04, 01:59 PM
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Been a while since I saw a good post.
But this one is even better than just good.
I also treated our uromastic the same way you did. Even with our geckos, we realised that giving them more heat than giving them flagil and panacur helped them out more in the long run.
But I didn't try it on any of my snakes since they are all in perfect health and if it's not broken, don't fix it ;-)
The uromastic in question was a rescue and we really didn't think it would survive, but we decided to boost the temps in an area to 48 celcius and after now 3 months, he is in perfect health, eats like a champ and gains weight (but cannot do any miracles for the scars and losss of the spines on it's tail) so it's ugly but a good pet.
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04-02-04, 12:55 PM
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This info can save 1000s of reptiles, no biologist, veterinarians, PhDs can argue about the fact that wild reptiles use heat to control there parasites load. In fact its there only way to do so. Yet this post goes much unnoticed, shame!
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04-02-04, 01:09 PM
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one question I like to ask Steve B (because you obviously done your homework) what about the fact that in the wild an animail can choose more then just bask area (temp0 but can choose to leave the area its in. For example mites are known to leave the host for certian periods at which time the animal can leave them behind. Over time they may be able to rid them selves of these parasites. (or internal parasite that may come out in stool) even the best husbandry practices the stool may site for more then an hour.
and i agree with Siretsap this post should be showing more views and post...this is the reason why i'm here...not to discuss a nausium "best way to kill a mouse"
thanks steve for the informative post i look forward to your response.
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04-02-04, 03:05 PM
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rgds
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Herpetoculture isn’t an exact science!!
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04-04-04, 12:34 PM
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Location: Carstairs AB Canada
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Hi.
I was wondering if you think this method would work for chameleons and how would you determine a safe temp for montane species such as Rudis, Quadricornis or Jacksons.
Please let me know what you think. Thanks.
Draper
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04-04-04, 02:18 PM
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Location: St. Louis, MO
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Steve both your posts contained some great info, i don't understand why you deleted them??? I enjoy reading your post even if i don't respond to them.
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04-05-04, 12:10 PM
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Location: new york city
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steeve,
this hasnt gone unnoticed. i wonder now if this way could have saved my rudis and dumerils back in early 90s. thanks for the education. -john a
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04-05-04, 12:27 PM
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Location: Newmarket, ON
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I Agree with John A.
We still need to all get together are you attending the April 18 Show John?
I will talk to soon Steeve
Cheers
Brian
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04-05-04, 03:00 PM
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Location: new york city
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hi brian, which show, hamberg PA? if its a canadian show i wont be up there. one day ill get out and see you guys. all the best, -john
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04-05-04, 06:14 PM
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Fever is natures way of dealing with parasites, be it streptococcus or malaria! In mammals fever is the way to fight it; however reptiles must rely on external heat source.
To answer to your? yes heat who’d help any reptiles desert or tropical, to my knowledge arboreals often bask on top of the canopy when needed, it may be of interest to know that a sun baked log will produce higher heat then a rock placed side by side, and will retain this heat longer after sunset.
IV removed my post because I was kindly asked to do so! (Nothing to do with site administration)
Rgds
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04-05-04, 07:08 PM
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Location: Calgary Alberta Canada
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Any reason givin?
Matt
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04-15-04, 03:23 AM
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could you mail this story steeve? i read this only for today and i am very curios...
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