A few sad facts

[CHRISANDBOIDS14]

Here are some things by Dr. Suzuki. I think everyone should read them. Give your comments when your done. Here comes the web site attack:

http://jnevill.customer.netspace.net...zuki_quote.htm

http://www.caw.ca/whatwedo/health&sa.../4.1.jan96.asp

http://www.cdfe.org/suzuki.htm

http://www.empireclubfoundation.com/...hID=468&FT=yes

http://www.greenleft.org.au/back/1994/171/171p5.htm

Go ahead, read a few, dont rush, take the time to understand and ponder over the points.

Chris

[CHRISANDBOIDS14]

Has nobody read these?

[Gary D.]

While I don't agree with Dr. Suzuki on all of his views, he does have some good observations.

[Slannesh]

I remember thinking David Suzuki was so cool when I was a kid... then I grew up and realized he's just another of the tree hugging extremists rather than an actual conservationalist... I try to avoid reading anything of his if I can cause it just tends to make me mad

[Big_V]

I on the other hand actually like David Suzuki just because he makes you think. Though he can be a bit of an extremist his actual goal is to get people to think about the consequences that will come eventually from our actions. You have to take into account what all people say to get an informative point of view so thats why i continue to read his thoughts when i come across them.
Cheers, Ryan

[Cruciform]

Great points.

I don't agree with everything Greenpeace does, but I still donate to them. And they never even sent me my t-shirt dammit.

[CHRISANDBOIDS14]

I totally understand you guys. He does give extreme examples but I think with quite afew of the pages there he is right. He's not my hero I just found those good for people to read. Very interesting and educational stuff he says though.

[gonesnakee]

People "hate" being "slappped in the face" with REALITY, Mark

[C.m.pyrrhus]

People "hate" being "slappped in the face" with REALITY, Mark

Point is, that is the truth. Personally, I never have heard of Mr. Susuki. I skimmed briefly over the pages, and had to agree with what I read ever so quickly. Yet...I see that Mother Nature will live past us and see better days beyond our rule here on this pale blue orb. I think it will be very tough to kill off our fair mother, I just think we just do a good job at killing everything she has made for us.

It is also fair to point out that I find it true, that even with so many "herpers", how many have or actually do enjoy herping outdoors, enjoying the full natural life outside of our cities and towns. Just to live as an 'animal', without worrying about what we spend our money on, or filling our homes with unessesary items just to say that we know we exsist. Does it not seem pointless to stress over meaningless rubble, to slave our lives away to 'earn' a buck, only to give it back to those that work us like mules so that we have a right to enjoy life? It is a bit nice to have low-fat blackberry maple syrup in the convenient microwavable container and the "new-age soy products" so one can feel like they give a crap about the planet and its beasts. Pointless materialism so the flocks will agree they care.

Extreme it may seem, but who here would actually give that all up for the real life that was intended for each of us. Not many will, but many will cope out a nice setiment as to why they care, as in there choice of diet...."I can't eat an animal, not me, I respect them"...bleh, just horsecrap. We are all at fault at some level or another, but better off knowing that and dealing with it than not.

Why do we have this obsession with continuous growth? Simply because growth and an increasing GNP (gross national product) have become our only measures of progress as a society.

You buy, work and live in it, so do not feel as if buying from their propaganda at "environmentally healthy" is bypassing them and outsmarting them......

Okie..enough of a tiff....