Cuddles the Woma Python - Page 11

REM955 · 12-29-16, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Derek Roddy

Maybe, larger meals will take longer to digest (which their systems aren't really set up for that as they don't have access to large food items in the bush...and if it is a large item, has almost no fat...like dragons or skinks)

So, they will hide and digest until they're ready again.

Better for them to have small items so they're out looking in a few days....thats how they operate in the wild. Keeps em lean and active.

D

Back onto this discussion again.
I am looking at this. Reason being is that she is spending all her time in the cold hide (80 degrees or less (adding insulation)). Sounds like not enough food if she enjoys it there according to a few articles to conserve energy/ slow metabolism. I say enjoys as when I take her out, I put her back in a hot hide and she will always go to the far end into the.

I know she can take a fuzzy rat, but it takes a while. Sounds like the size down weaned.

I will make a point of looking at the weaned/ adult mice going back in to the store to refill them.

An updated picture of her body: Dec 29 2016
Still looks like she has to me, except the creases are only prevalent in the first half of her body.

Update: As I finish this update, it appears that she took cue and holed up in a hot hide, but it looks like it is just for the sake of shedding (related?) as she is spinning round inside of it.

REM955 · 12-31-16, 06:43 PM

A new thing I changed with her cage while cleaning today.
I bought some Sani-chips earlier this month and today I stuffed the hides with a scoop or so.
I can see her moving stuff around in her hide, supposedly to nestle in.

I guess one could say she digs it. =P

REM955 · 01-21-17, 12:47 PM

Fresh shed found in cage this afternoon.
Took her out for inspection. Full of energy. Took a while to get her to get all of her and the ruler in the picture.
With use of SerpWidget's snake measuring, she sits at a bit more than 2ft 4in. 4 inches since the beginning of November.

GyGbeetle · 01-23-17, 02:59 PM

I have a Woma and have done tons of research about these guys.

Face rubbing: they tend to do this when they have an itch, or when they reset their jaw. It's tiny, and they don't have heat vents like most pythons do. So this characteristic is not uncommon, nor is it an indication of anything severe. I had to give my woma oral meds, which we had to keep in the fridge. So she would nose rub for awhile.

Activity around shed: they are super hyper. Like you can't control them sort of hyper. And then they sleep during shed for the most part. And then hyper again.

They are avid eaters. They can get what seems to be aggression around food, but, unless handled improperly, will still remain relatively docile. Although I've heard from a few breeders that the males can get a little aggressive and bitey. Adults may not get more than a small or even medium sized rat.

Their butts look like one of those animal balloons. It doesn't always mean there's poop. Unfortunately. So it's misleading to look at their butt and think it's ready for poop. The younger ones will have a higher metabolism and will tend to poop about 1-2 days. But adults also have a good metabolism so they may poop on the same schedule. If they aren't pooping, check your husbandry. If she's new, she may be shy. Mine took over a week for the first poop, and it was while I was handling the. The extra movement outside of her enclosure worked wonders. She was just a little shy.

I hope any of this helps you. I didn't find enough research about them online, so a lot came from breeders and vets

GyGbeetle · 01-24-17, 12:21 PM

Charlotte looking for food, 2 days after being fed a small rat. I don't know how old she is, but I suspect she's a yearling.

REM955 · 02-04-17, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GyGbeetle

Charlotte looking for food, 2 days after being fed a small rat. I don't know how old she is, but I suspect she's a yearling.

Small rat? How small? As in a Fuzzy or Weaned?
For any comparative reference, the 28" mark is after nearly 9 months.

REM955 · 02-04-17, 02:20 PM

Another oddity in her behavior as of late is deciding she wants to sleep during the day outside of her hide. I recall this happening more once larger, but not at this size.

GyGbeetle · 02-04-17, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by REM955

Small rat? How small? As in a Fuzzy or Weaned?
For any comparative reference, the 28" mark is after nearly 9 months.

With her girth, we feed her a regular small rat. A little bigger than a weaned, but not terribly fat. It leaves a bit of a lump, and she poops quite nicely (and on me) about 2 days later. I am pretty sure she's a yearling, not much bigger than 2 feet. And she also sleeps during the day and is very active at night. I have read they are nocturnal creatures. But you may want to confirm some with more woma experience (I saw Derek Roddy on this post, and I believe he's an expert when it comes to these Aussie babies).

Maybe she just doesn't like the name Cuddles (hehe). I don't have much more insight other than what I've researched and what I'm seeing in my own, so I hope it's helpful.

REM955 · 02-20-17, 07:55 PM

My 9 month length measurement may be wrong.
New Length: 32.5"
New Weight (sans poop): 175 grams

REM955 · 03-01-17, 05:34 PM

Blue Noodle

GyGbeetle · 03-01-17, 05:40 PM

So I started feeding Charlotte (aka Char Char Binks) every 3-4 days, a small rat. Literally, 1-2 days after I feed her, she looks for more. Is that normal? I fed her yesterday, and she's looking again today.

When she shed, she was offline in her hide for like a whole week. And then I woke up one morning and she had completely shed, and was looking for food again.

REM955 · 03-01-17, 10:15 PM

According to a previous post by Derek Roddy, that would be the idea.

REM955 · 04-09-17, 07:46 PM

Something interesting happened tonight.
Gave her food and she struck and coiled.
Spent some time looking it over and decided that she would BITE HERSELF.
Midsection, not the tail, not a strike, just mistook herself for her food and clamped down.
I poked her with the stick to "reset" her and she got it down.
Why?...

GyGbeetle · 04-10-17, 09:08 AM

Because woma's are big derps. My woma last night during feeding had some odd behaviour that I've never seen before in her. Then, afterwards, since I have some "play" items in her tank (an empty toilet paper roll and an empty paper towel roll), she went through her toilet paper roll, but because she had just eaten, got stuck midway through, backed out of it, and then decided she just made a mistake the first time, and tried it again. Got stuck again, backed out again, and my husband took the rolls out until her food lump was gone.

Trying to feed her, she kept going up and up and up the side of the enclosure, kept opening her mouth a little, closing it, opening it, closing it again, licked the rat a few times, then decided she wanted to eat it and bit down gently, coiled, and went back down to the ground. Normally she will strike and coil. Guess she forgot this time?

Like I said, woma's are big derps.

**Andy_G** · 04-10-17, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REM955

Something interesting happened tonight.
Gave her food and she struck and coiled.
Spent some time looking it over and decided that she would BITE HERSELF.
Midsection, not the tail, not a strike, just mistook herself for her food and clamped down.
I poked her with the stick to "reset" her and she got it down.
Why?...

Happens with lots of species. Always kind of funny to watch.