need help

robertjnovak59 · 04-09-13, 05:22 PM

My sisters bearded dragon is really lethargic.
She can pick him up and flip him upside down
And he barely reacts. Now hes light yellowish

RyanReptile · 04-09-13, 05:26 PM

You need to tell us what your husbandry of the bearded dragon is eg. Cage temperatures, humidity, diet etc... For us to help you.

robertjnovak59 · 04-09-13, 05:31 PM

Humidy is 35%, air temp is 80, but that's just
Off a thermometer. Not sure what the basking temp is.
Hes 9 years old, he wont eat much romaine lettuce
but he likes superworms.He wont eat anything else.

mygabriella · 04-09-13, 05:37 PM

Maybe his basking isnt hot enough?

robertjnovak59 · 04-09-13, 05:49 PM

she gives him a bath in a tub of water once a week and the last two times he got a bath he flipped upside down and almost quit moving, like he was in shock. When she holds him, he doesnt really grab onto her anymore,

shaunyboy · 04-10-13, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by robertjnovak59

she gives him a bath in a tub of water once a week and the last two times he got a bath he flipped upside down and almost quit moving, like he was in shock. When she holds him, he doesnt really grab onto her anymore,

could the tub have been used for something containing chemicals ?

sorry,its only snakes i keep,but they can have severe reactions to certain chemicals,cleaning products,air fresheners,etc

cheers shaun

robertjnovak59 · 04-10-13, 03:11 PM

I will try the collard greens, dont think shes tried them yet.
The bulbs only a couple months old, they seem to break fast. Its 18" from him.
I think its flourescent. There have never been chemicals in the tank.
She hasn't changed food, bedding, or bulb types since shes had him.
I want to find a good vet, I've been lucky, my snakes have always been healthy.

murrindindi · 04-10-13, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by robertjnovak59

I will try the collard greens, dont think shes tried them yet.
The bulbs only a couple months old, they seem to break fast. Its 18" from him.
I think its flourescent. There have never been chemicals in the tank.
She hasn't changed food, bedding, or bulb types since shes had him.
I want to find a good vet, I've been lucky, my snakes have always been healthy.

Hi, can you get the name of the UVB tube, because most of them need to be within approx 10inches (25cm) of the animal`s surface to be of benefit? Any further and there`s a chance the dragon wouldn`t be getting enough UVB exposure, which can lead to some quite serious problems such as MBD.
Also, what`s the exact temp of the water the dragon is bathed in?

smy_749 · 04-09-13, 05:51 PM

The most important piece of information is the one you didn't provide. His basking temperature. His appetite and his energy level are directly related to his energy SOURCE. He can't digest if he isn't warmed up, and he can't recharge if he doesn't get warm enough. Warm end should be much much warmer than 80, cool end should be around 80....

robertjnovak59 · 04-09-13, 06:09 PM

I've had him for 2 years now, last year he was nothing like this. The tank itself is 80, the basking spot has a 100 watt light right above his basking spot. It's the bath that has spooked us out. He has always loved it, now the last 2 times he has flipped over in his bath 2 or 3 times like an alligator, I take him out and he is a very pale yellow and very lethargic. I put him back in his tank under his light and he jumped off his log and is now moving slightly, seems a little disoriented. He is about 9 years old, so maybe he's just getting old.

robertjnovak59 · 04-09-13, 07:44 PM

Is there any accurate way to check the basking temperature without a temp gun?
Im assuming that's not the problem
because hes always been setup this way.

Starbuck · 04-09-13, 08:09 PM

if you have no way to accurately measure the basking temps etc, i think the next best thing would be to post pictures of the enclosure (in detail), and the animal. If you have them, maybe a current picture and an older one, that shows any changes to his skin tone, body condition, etc.

smy_749 · 04-09-13, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Starbuck

if you have no way to accurately measure the basking temps etc, i think the next best thing would be to post pictures of the enclosure (in detail), and the animal. If you have them, maybe a current picture and an older one, that shows any changes to his skin tone, body condition, etc.

Think about anything that you have changed recently. Water temps in his bath? DIET ? Substrate? Bulb ? Even different food supplier ? Think of anything that has changed, and investigate it. And don't forget, the vet can be of some help occasionally.

robertjnovak59 · 04-10-13, 08:07 AM

After they brumate, do they act strange for any period of time?
I know my corns take a few weeks to act normal when they wake up.
Could that be whats happening? Does anyone know a good reptile vet around cleveland, ohio?

RyanReptile · 04-10-13, 08:13 AM

Do you use a UVB bulb and what does his diet consist of?