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01-21-13, 02:05 AM
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Perentie babies!!!
Thanks for scouring the net for us Robyn and staff....
Perentie Monitors- U.S. Captive Bred Babies! | The Reptile Report
This is a must see video for Perentie fans.
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01-21-13, 05:02 AM
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Re: Perentie babies!!!
Looks like the only place to see them here in the US is in Dallas. I wonder why they are the only zoo that has them. Are they really difficult to breed in captivity?
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01-21-13, 10:58 AM
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Re: Perentie babies!!!
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Looks like the only place to see them here in the US is in Dallas. I wonder why they are the only zoo that has them. Are they really difficult to breed in captivity?
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I can't say since I never tried it.
But I can pretty well bet I know who to ask for advice...
Sadly, there is a person who did have some and try, but his stubborn refusal to accept what biologists have to offer, I believe his females went on to that great big gig in the sky with his Lace monitor girls.
On the other side of that coin, it may be for the best, since I could never in good conscience hold these majestic creatures captive, the amount of room they would need to function as nature intended would overwhelm most anyone.
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01-21-13, 06:40 PM
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Re: Perentie babies!!!
They're not difficult to breed, but you do need a pair to start with (  ), space and good nesting sites.
The parents of those babies were bred by a facility at which I used to work and, as I was involved in the process, were incubated, hatched and raised for the first while here in my home. I have been corresponding with the person in charge of the perenties at Black Hills regarding breeding them over there and am glad he succeeded. I hope they remain within AZA facilities.
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01-21-13, 08:08 PM
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Re: Perentie babies!!!
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. I hope they remain within AZA facilities.
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Me too............
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01-21-13, 08:49 PM
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Re: Perentie babies!!!
This is a tremendous step, very stoked to see it!
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01-28-13, 05:34 PM
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Re: Perentie babies!!!
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Originally Posted by crocdoc
They're not difficult to breed, but you do need a pair to start with (  ), space and good nesting sites.
The parents of those babies were bred by a facility at which I used to work and, as I was involved in the process, were incubated, hatched and raised for the first while here in my home. I have been corresponding with the person in charge of the perenties at Black Hills regarding breeding them over there and am glad he succeeded. I hope they remain within AZA facilities.
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awesome man, awesome
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01-29-13, 01:53 PM
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Re: Perentie babies!!!
It is great to see them hatch AMAZING. While I know zoos do sell to public all over the world. I don't really see why it's so bad. Thousands of animals are killed or eggs detroyed just because zoos are full mainly males of many rare sp. Having perenties in public hands will not turn out like waters and niles purely because they would need to bred in HUGE large numbers and they willn't be so price will remain high and only a handfull of keepers will want to splash out that sort of money on a animal. I however hope to see them in public hands over the next 10 or so years as long as they are genuine CB not smuggled
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01-21-13, 10:30 AM
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Re: Perentie babies!!!
I saw those. I'm insanely jealous. What an accomplishment!
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01-22-13, 05:27 AM
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Re: Perentie babies!!!
If they are being bred in AZA facilities I believe that they are not sold to the public. Each hatchling would be followed by the stud book keeper with placement in zoos that meet specific criteria.
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01-22-13, 07:48 AM
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Re: Perentie babies!!!
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If they are being bred in AZA facilities I believe that they are not sold to the public. Each hatchling would be followed by the stud book keeper with placement in zoos that meet specific criteria.
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Trust me, its only a matter of time before they will be available to the public.
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01-22-13, 10:48 AM
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Re: Perentie babies!!!
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Trust me, its only a matter of time before they will be available to the public.
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Why? Isn't it illegal to export them out of Australia? I honestly doubt that the zoo will sell them to the puplic when other AZA zoos don't currently have them.
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01-22-13, 11:21 AM
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Re: Perentie babies!!!
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Why? Isn't it illegal to export them out of Australia? I honestly doubt that the zoo will sell them to the puplic when other AZA zoos don't currently have them.
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Illegal only works for law abiding people.
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01-22-13, 03:49 PM
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Re: Perentie babies!!!
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Trust me, its only a matter of time before they will be available to the public.
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Agreed. Sooner or later a zoo will leak a few into public hands. I don't have much of a problem with them being in public hands, as they would undoubtedly be very expensive and you would need to know the right people to get your hands on some. I doubt that they would end up as available as something like a Nile or a Water, or at least I certainly hope not. I don't have a problem with Varanids being in private hands so long as measures are set in place to ensure they are properly cared for, and they are captive bred as much as possible.
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01-22-13, 08:41 PM
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Re: Perentie babies!!!
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Originally Posted by Pirarucu
...so long as measures are set in place to ensure they are properly cared for, and they are captive bred as much as possible.
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Ah, but those measures clearly aren't in place.
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