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01-02-13, 04:30 AM
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Ball Python RI home cure needed,
So my Adult BP has a normal RI(coughing, leaking saliva out of his mouth etc.) and I'm not in the proximity of any reptile veterinarians. So far, I've kept him under UV light to kill external bacteria,given him metabolism boosting vitamin compounds, and humidified my room with a menthol humidifier. Is there anything I can do to cure this without vet attention--am I doing something wrong?
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01-02-13, 04:58 AM
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Re: Ball Python RI home cure needed,
Post all the inof about your enclosure - temps, humidity etc and we will try to help
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01-02-13, 08:06 AM
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Re: Ball Python RI home cure needed,
Ok, so here are the stats for my enclosure:
20 gallon,with hide(heat pad underneath) with ambient UVA/B bulb shining on one side.
Cool side:78-85 degrees
Warm side:85-91 degrees
Humidity 40-50% constant
He won't eat either, he is actually being more seclusive than hungry. I'll hang his food above him and he'll strike but not bite, and when the food touches him he shoves it like a display of territorial dominance.
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01-02-13, 11:59 AM
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Re: Ball Python RI home cure needed,
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Originally Posted by ~CobaltEdge~
So my Adult BP has a normal RI(coughing, leaking saliva out of his mouth etc.) and I'm not in the proximity of any reptile veterinarians. So far, I've kept him under UV light to kill external bacteria,given him metabolism boosting vitamin compounds, and humidified my room with a menthol humidifier. Is there anything I can do to cure this without vet attention--am I doing something wrong?
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You need to get to a vet that can do a culture to find out if it's bacterial or viral. If it's bacterial you can get meds to clear it up. If it's viral there's no cure.
What kind of stuff are you giving this snake? How do you know it's OKAY inside a snake's metabolism? How do you know if these compounds aren't doing more damage?
Also, I'd raise all your temps and humidity. In general, your 78 cool side is far too low. I keep my ball pythons hot. 96 hot spot. cool side mid to high 80's and this is ALL the time.
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01-03-13, 02:59 AM
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Re: Ball Python RI home cure needed,
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
You need to get to a vet that can do a culture to find out if it's bacterial or viral. If it's bacterial you can get meds to clear it up. If it's viral there's no cure.
What kind of stuff are you giving this snake? How do you know it's OKAY inside a snake's metabolism? How do you know if these compounds aren't doing more damage?
Also, I'd raise all your temps and humidity. In general, your 78 cool side is far too low. I keep my ball pythons hot. 96 hot spot. cool side mid to high 80's and this is ALL the time.
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I'm not giving him any drugs or additives, I'm just giving him B vitamins. I have started to put my big heat emitter on him, so his temp has gone up to 90+ degrees.
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01-03-13, 08:47 AM
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Super Genius
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Re: Ball Python RI home cure needed,
Snakes.
CAN'T.
Cough.
Take him to the vet or he will be dead inside of two weeks.
I 100% guarantee it.
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01-03-13, 01:25 PM
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Re: Ball Python RI home cure needed,
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Originally Posted by mykee
Snakes.
CAN'T.
Cough.
Take him to the vet or he will be dead inside of two weeks.
I 100% guarantee it.
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I concur.
I'm sure we'll have a thread asking why.
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01-02-13, 12:11 PM
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Re: Ball Python RI home cure needed,
Humidity needs to be a MINIMUM of 55% but 60 is better with it raised to 65 during shed, apart from that Aaron covered everything else
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01-02-13, 12:27 PM
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Re: Ball Python RI home cure needed,
there is no cure you can provide. If you really love your snake you will look up herp vets within driving distance and get him seen.
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01-02-13, 01:21 PM
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Re: Ball Python RI home cure needed,
If it's leaking saliva, you have a very advanced RI. With those symptoms, this animal could easily drown within a weeks time without veterinary attention.
Also, your "home care" is not only doing no good, but could be causing harm. The menthol is the worst of the lot. Stop immediately. Soak down his enclosure to get the humidity up to 90+% and bump the temps to 100 degrees until you can get to a vet.
Also, snakes don't cough. Its physiologically impossible.
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01-03-13, 02:54 AM
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Re: Ball Python RI home cure needed,
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Originally Posted by mykee
Also, snakes don't cough. Its physiologically impossible.
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He did. His would breathe and then flex his neck outwards why'll brashly exhaling.
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01-03-13, 02:44 PM
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Re: Ball Python RI home cure needed,
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He did. His would breathe and then flex his neck outwards why'll brashly exhaling.
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he is trying to expell mucas from his lung...
your snake needs medication asap
this requires a vet culturing swabs or better still a tracheal wash
this will tell him if its bacterial or viral infection he is dealing with
cheers shaun
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01-03-13, 02:41 PM
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slainte mhath
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Re: Ball Python RI home cure needed,
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Originally Posted by mykee
If it's leaking saliva, you have a very advanced RI. With those symptoms, this animal could easily drown within a weeks time without veterinary attention.
Also, your "home care" is not only doing no good, but could be causing harm. The menthol is the worst of the lot. Stop immediately. Soak down his enclosure to get the humidity up to 90+% and bump the temps to 100 degrees until you can get to a vet.
Also, snakes don't cough. Its physiologically impossible.
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^^^^^
this
what your calling a cough,is the snake trying to expel mucas from its lung,it gives out one long fast breath in oreder to try and clear mucas
your snake is past home remodies doing the job...
you need to go to the vets mate
cheers shaun
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01-03-13, 02:58 AM
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Re: Ball Python RI home cure needed,
It appears that his symptoms are subsiding, he has not wheezed as much now that I've increased his humidity.
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01-03-13, 11:28 AM
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Re: Ball Python RI home cure needed,
Are you in Arizona? If so this list may help.
Herp Vet Connection
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