ID help?

Kaity · 12-17-12, 10:59 AM

I ran across this image (uncredited, unfortunately) and have been wandering around the net trying to figure out what species it is. The closest match I can find is a patternless Moellendorff's ratsnake, but it seems too pink all around. Thoughts?

poison123 · 12-17-12, 01:45 PM

the scales remind me of some type of Pituophis (some type of morph) but those eyes look like fish eyes. is this the only pic there was?

infernalis · 12-17-12, 01:53 PM

rat snake of some sort..

BarelyBreathing · 12-17-12, 01:55 PM

I rarely say this, but I'm stumped. It looks like some weird cross between a sand boa and a porph, but that's just silly.

dinosaurdammit · 12-17-12, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BarelyBreathing

I rarely say this, but I'm stumped. It looks like some weird cross between a sand boa and a porph, but that's just silly.

its the eyes man! I would say this snake burrows- what ever it is, ive never seen eyes on the top of a snakes head that didnt burrow. Its a cool snake whatever it is

BarelyBreathing · 12-17-12, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dinosaurdammit

its the eyes man! I would say this snake burrows- what ever it is, ive never seen eyes on the top of a snakes head that didnt burrow. Its a cool snake whatever it is

Exactly! And the texture of the scales. This snake was meant for moving underground.

poison123 · 12-17-12, 02:34 PM

the red tongue looks pretty cool

BarelyBreathing · 12-17-12, 02:34 PM

Is it a long nose morph?

EmbraceCalamity · 12-17-12, 05:18 PM

If you find out, let me know so I can buy one.

~Maggot

StudentoReptile · 12-17-12, 06:05 PM

Diadem rat snake. The taxonomic name escapes me, but they pop up now again on wholesalers lists/tables, mainly those who do a lot of WC imports.

It's an African species, not really related to our North American rat snakes.

BarelyBreathing · 12-17-12, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

Diadem rat snake. The taxonomic name escapes me, but they pop up now again on wholesalers lists/tables, mainly those who do a lot of WC imports.

It's an African species, not really related to our North American rat snakes.

That is it! Thank you!

EmbraceCalamity · 12-17-12, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

Diadem rat snake. The taxonomic name escapes me, but they pop up now again on wholesalers lists/tables, mainly those who do a lot of WC imports.

It's an African species, not really related to our North American rat snakes.

Is it some kind of morph? 'Cause I Googled it, and some looked like this:

And some looked like this:

~Maggot

Jason_Hood · 12-17-12, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by StudentoReptile

Diadem rat snake. The taxonomic name escapes me, but they pop up now again on wholesalers lists/tables, mainly those who do a lot of WC imports.

It's an African species, not really related to our North American rat snakes.

Exactly right except they are more Middle Eastern and these look to be Royal Diadems Rat Snakes. As with many of the diurnal or arboreal snakes, it is far far better to buy CBB. It will take a bit more effort and a couple dollars more to do so but the pay off is huge! These guys are more racer than rat snake and have the attitude to back it up. If you buy CBB and young you can get them to be very placid and easy to deal with but a large WC can be a bit of a pain.

They are not chainsaws by any means but they do get a decent size and calmer is better. They also have a good hiss to them which is off putting to people not accustomed to hissing snakes. I had one clear a dozen kids out of my house one time... but they were easily scared.

Jason

EmbraceCalamity · 12-17-12, 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason_Hood

Exactly right except they are more Middle Eastern and these look to be Royal Diadems Rat Snakes. As with many of the diurnal or arboreal snakes, it is far far better to buy CBB. It will take a bit more effort and a couple dollars more to do so but the pay off is huge! These guys are more racer than rat snake and have the attitude to back it up. If you buy CBB and young you can get them to be very placid and easy to deal with but a large WC can be a bit of a pain.

They are not chainsaws by any means but they do get a decent size and calmer is better. They also have a good hiss to them which is off putting to people not accustomed to hissing snakes. I had one clear a dozen kids out of my house one time... but they were easily scared.

Jason

I'm a little confused about all the different pictures I've got turning up on Google. Some look like this:

And some look like this:

Do they go through a big change as they age or are they different morphs or what?

~Maggot

Jason_Hood · 12-18-12, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EmbraceCalamity

I'm a little confused about all the different pictures I've got turning up on Google. Some look like this:

And some look like this:

Do they go through a big change as they age or are they different morphs or what?

~Maggot

You have pics of a baby and an adult. They do go through a change as they mature. I am not aware of any morphs but I am not up on the current state of things with them. There could be morphs by now...

Jason