Say hello to my little friend!

radstusky · 08-28-12, 05:28 PM

I do mean that literally...

I found this little guy in front of my door on the sidewalk as I was coming home tonight. I had seen him before once, but he was too fast to catch. After I caught him the first thing he did was regurg an earthworm! Guess I know what he eats.

Can someone tell me what he is? I would guess some kind of garter?

I tried to get a picture with a dime for size reference, but didn't do so well here...

snake man12 · 08-28-12, 05:31 PM

Let's see what Wayne says about the taxonomy

alessia55 · 08-28-12, 05:42 PM

Are you planning on keeping him?

BarelyBreathing · 08-28-12, 06:08 PM

He's regurgitating most likely due from the stress of the capture. Please release him.

snake man12 · 08-28-12, 06:10 PM

Holy crap if I hear one more person tell somebody to let a wc animal go bad things will happen.

**Pareeeee** · 08-28-12, 06:13 PM

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Holy crap if I hear one more person tell somebody to let a wc animal go bad things will happen.

hahaha first you're like

then you're like

be careful when you get

snake man12 · 08-28-12, 06:18 PM

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hahaha first you're like

then you're like

be careful when you get

Hahah that made me crack up.

I am almost at an end with these only cb reptiles, people don't realize that all cb herp's ancestors were wild caught.

Also those redbelly are very abundant in the wild. I almost

alessia55 · 08-28-12, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by snake man12

Hahah that made me crack up.

I am almost at an end with these only cb reptiles, people don't realize that all cb herp's ancestors were wild caught.

Also those redbelly are very abundant in the wild. I almost

I think the issue is moreso that the little snake is most likely to thrive better int he wild than in captivity. It already regarded a meal from the stress of capture.

infernalis · 08-28-12, 07:06 PM

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Also those redbelly are very abundant in the wild. I almost

Red Belly snakes are close relatives to dekayi snakes, Storeria occipitomaculata (the red belly) do horribly in captivity, I gave up on them years ago.

Dekayi on the other hand are super easy, Heck I can get them to take food out of my hand in the wild, just wave a slug in front of them and the feeding response overtakes fear.

Xena was 7 years old when she finally died, she exceeded the "average" life expectancy by a year.

I still miss her, she was a real sweetheart.

Volcom269 · 08-28-12, 07:01 PM

Hahahahaha

**Pareeeee** · 08-28-12, 06:11 PM

Red Belly Snake

snake man12 · 08-28-12, 06:22 PM

Regurges are common for a snake that has just been captured.

Kaetlinv · 08-28-12, 06:23 PM

I would only say release the little fellow if it doesn't take to food / the care that is provided to it, and being in captivity begins to be detrimental to the little fella's health. However, I think that if Radstusky is willing to give a proper go on caring for the little tyke, he should certainly do so. You never know what WC animal will become a wonderful pet. I caught an injured Katydid and she lived nearly a month and a half past her expected lifespan.

Radstusky, I hope if you're planning on keeping him you'll research / ask about the species to get him properly set up! A little terrarium like that with no substrate should not be a more than temporary home, although I see you did put some sticks in there. Perhaps for the time being until you get expert-advice, you could provide him some material to dig around in, preferably the sort of material you found him in?

jaleely · 08-28-12, 06:45 PM

i say keep him, he's cool. but only keep him if you can get him to eat and drink. He's a baby so being nervous and upset is only natural. It's how YOU feel about keeping the snake that matters, really.

Being a baby i'd say he could adapt well to tame living. If it was an adult, i'd day release, unless it was injured.

Normally i say no wild caught. I also disagree with imports -strongly. But he's a wee widdle one. He doesn't even have his territory really established yet.
I'm also biased.
I guess i say keep him because i think he's adorable and as a baby, i'd be like...MINE! lol

like i said if it was a healthy adult with it's routine, etc, i'd release, but this little guy is just starting out! Only if he' stays stressed would i release him.

oh and snake ancestors being wc has nothing to do with a reason for keeping wc snakes. that's silly. despite how people think snakes cannot become domesticated, i just flat out disagree. it's just a fact that cb thrives where wc just gets by, in most cases.
you can't tell me my silly little many generation captive bred snakes who only eat their food if i shove it in their mouths, while they hold open their mouths, have not had their instincts diminished by captivity lol

some snakes i feel, either have a sensitivity to learned behavior, and can adapt quickly to captive life, or a lessening of instinct due to circumstance. I'm kind of saying different things here, even if they sound the same.

I guess i'm trying to say that due to environment, a cb who hasnt been exposed to the wild is going to be more inclined to become docile and manageable, whereas a wc snake is more sensitive to it's instincts, and does not adapt well to captive life. It also depends on how long that snake has been exposed to that life.

snake man12 · 08-28-12, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jaleely

i say keep him, he's cool. but only keep him if you can get him to eat and drink. He's a baby so being nervous and upset is only natural. It's how YOU feel about keeping the snake that matters, really.

Being a baby i'd say he could adapt well to tame living. If it was an adult, i'd day release, unless it was injured.

Normally i say no wild caught. I also disagree with imports -strongly. But he's a wee widdle one. He doesn't even have his territory really established yet.
I'm also biased.
I guess i say keep him because i think he's adorable and as a baby, i'd be like...MINE! lol

like i said if it was a healthy adult with it's routine, etc, i'd release, but this little guy is just starting out! Only if he' stays stressed would i release him.

oh and snake ancestors being wc has nothing to do with a reason for keeping wc snakes. that's silly. despite how people think snakes cannot become domesticated, i just flat out disagree. it's just a fact that cb thrives where wc just gets by, in most cases.
you can't tell me my silly little many generation captive bred snakes who only eat their food if i shove it in their mouths, while they hold open their mouths, have not had their instincts diminished by captivity lol

some snakes i feel, either have a sensitivity to learned behavior, and can adapt quickly to captive life, or a lessening of instinct due to circumstance. I'm kind of saying different things here, even if they sound the same.

I guess i'm trying to say that due to environment, a cb who hasnt been exposed to the wild is going to be more inclined to become docile and manageable, whereas a wc snake is more sensitive to it's instincts, and does not adapt well to captive life. It also depends on how long that snake has been exposed to that life.

Wtf. A snake can't be domesticated or tamed for that matter. Please review you sources.