A Good Weight to Breed Irian Jayas?

exwizard · 07-07-12, 09:33 AM

I was just wondering this. I know I have a ways to go since both mine are '10s but I do plan on breeding them in the future. What age and size is the recommended minimum to breed Irian Jayas?

shaunyboy · 07-07-12, 11:36 AM

sorry i have never wieghed my carpets mate

but i breed my females in their 4th year

a big female i may try in her 3rd year though

cheers shaun

hellosugaree · 07-09-12, 09:26 AM

I'd suggest no sooner than 3 years for females, but that depends on size. If you're looking for numbers, I can't help. Males are usually ready to go sooner.

UwabamiReptiles · 07-10-12, 02:11 PM

Here's an article that specifies some weight for the females.

http://http://www.moreliapythons.com...et_Pythons.htm

With that being said, most carpet breeders I've talked to have said they go by age more often than weight. At least 3 years old seems to be the standard I've heard of.

gonesnakee · 07-11-12, 04:27 PM

Well none of this 1500g or 2 YO CRAP you hear scumbags & the seriuosly misinformed spouting off about thats for sure.
At least 4 YO for girls as has been mentioned & though I have never weighed my breeders either I would venture to say in the 3000+ g range, a 3000g female being a small one.
If given at least 4 full years to grow & mature they (females) will be ready, males ready at around 2YO, Mark

edit - also for the record adults should be in 2 X 2 x 3 or 4 ft enclosures NOT small rack systems meant for BPs!!!
Too many idiots trying to continually lower the standards of care & breeding minimums for these animals since the morphs started popping up & many worry more about $$$ than the welfare of the animals, Nuff Said

shaunyboy · 07-14-12, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by gonesnakee

Well none of this 1500g or 2 YO CRAP you hear scumbags & the seriuosly misinformed spouting off about thats for sure.
At least 4 YO for girls as has been mentioned & though I have never weighed my breeders either I would venture to say in the 3000+ g range, a 3000g female being a small one.
If given at least 4 full years to grow & mature they (females) will be ready, males ready at around 2YO, Mark

edit - also for the record adults should be in 2 X 2 x 3 or 4 ft enclosures NOT small rack systems meant for BPs!!!
Too many idiots trying to continually lower the standards of care & breeding minimums for these animals since the morphs started popping up & many worry more about $$$ than the welfare of the animals, Nuff Said

^^^^^
agree completely Mark

i'd go as far to say.....

the minimum tank size for an adult carpet should be 4L x 2H x2D ft

for large coastals and diamonds,the minimum of 6L x 2H x 2D ft (3ft of hieght,would also be acceptable)

cheers shaun

P.S.for the record i always wait until my females are 4 years of age,but i have friends who have bred big females,at the 3 years of age with no issues,personally i would still wait till the 4th year

males from 2 years of age onwards

if they looked big enough,i have friends that will try a male at 18 month,just incase he was sexually mature

exwizard · 07-14-12, 09:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gonesnakee

Well none of this 1500g or 2 YO CRAP you hear scumbags & the seriuosly misinformed spouting off about thats for sure.
At least 4 YO for girls as has been mentioned & though I have never weighed my breeders either I would venture to say in the 3000+ g range, a 3000g female being a small one.
If given at least 4 full years to grow & mature they (females) will be ready, males ready at around 2YO, Mark

edit - also for the record adults should be in 2 X 2 x 3 or 4 ft enclosures NOT small rack systems meant for BPs!!!
Too many idiots trying to continually lower the standards of care & breeding minimums for these animals since the morphs started popping up & many worry more about $$$ than the welfare of the animals, Nuff Said

Thanks guys. This is all good info to have even if it means I have at least 2 more years to go. Im a patient guy.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shaunyboy

^^^^^
agree completely Mark

i'd go as far to say.....

the minimum tank size for an adult carpet should be 4L x 2H x2D ft

for large coastals and diamonds,the minimum of 6L x 2H x 2D ft (3ft of hieght,would also be acceptable)

cheers shaun

P.S.for the record i always wait until my females are 4 years of age,but i have friends who have bred big females,at the 3 years of age with no issues,personally i would still wait till the 4th year

males from 2 years of age onwards

if they looked big enough,i have friends that will try a male at 18 month,just incase he was sexually mature

gonesnakee · 07-14-12, 12:16 PM

Yep with the 2 X 2 X 3 ft enclosures they are actually too small for a couple of my bigger girls that are in 2 X 2 X 4 swhich could also use an extrza ft in height or another one or 2 feet in length too.
Very rarely is caging offered ever too big but caging that is way too small is continually offered by many as "acceptable".
I have no issues with folks breeding males at 18 months as long as it was a good feeder from the start to begin with & is not being drug around by his hemipenes by some huge female.
I mention feeding because a young developing male can be put right off food once introduced to breeding which could prove detrimental to him in the long run.
First few years of their lives are so important to become full size healthy animals, no need to start stunting their growth etc. to try & produce early just for the sake of doing so for whatever reason.
Giving them an extra year or two to begin with could result in an extra decade of life in the end & many more years of successful breedings during those extra years as well.
Cheers Mark
P.S. Slow & Steady "Wins"

shaunyboy · 07-14-12, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by gonesnakee

Yep with the 2 X 2 X 3 ft enclosures they are actually too small for a couple of my bigger girls that are in 2 X 2 X 4 swhich could also use an extrza ft in height or another one or 2 feet in length too.
Very rarely is caging offered ever too big but caging that is way too small is continually offered by many as "acceptable".
I have no issues with folks breeding males at 18 months as long as it was a good feeder from the start to begin with & is not being drug around by his hemipenes by some huge female.
I mention feeding because a young developing male can be put right off food once introduced to breeding which could prove detrimental to him in the long run.
First few years of their lives are so important to become full size healthy animals, no need to start stunting their growth etc. to try & produce early just for the sake of doing so for whatever reason.
Giving them an extra year or two to begin with could result in an extra decade of life in the end & many more years of successful breedings during those extra years as well.
Cheers Mark
P.S. Slow & Steady "Wins"

very important points indeed mate

very informative/educational,well put across

cheers shaun