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04-08-12, 11:43 AM
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How to tame my kings
Hello all. I just picked up my new breeding pair of cal. Kings. I'm just having a hard time getting them tame, I'd love for my son to be able to hold them (supervised of course) but they love to bite, I'm not sure if this is defensive or aggressive but either way, is there a way to tame these guys? My ball pythons and boas never gave me ths problem so I'm lost haha they are beautiful snakes and the male is one of the biggest cal. Kings I have ever seen. He's an easy 6 ft. And very thick, the female is a bit small for this season, I'm sure she could produce but would feel more comfortable waiting till she's a little thicker. Thanks guys,
Chris
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04-08-12, 12:24 PM
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Re: How to tame my kings
Don't quite know how to say his any other way....
They are simply being kingsnakes.
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04-08-12, 12:35 PM
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Re: How to tame my kings
Well, I guess "taming" is out of the question LOL!
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04-08-12, 12:38 PM
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Re: How to tame my kings
Do you have a snake hook? If not, get one.
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04-08-12, 12:41 PM
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Re: How to tame my kings
Just keep handling them they will soon stop biting but may never be calm
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04-08-12, 01:28 PM
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Re: How to tame my kings
I have my field herping snake hook, I made it out of a golf club I cut the tip off and used one of those rubber protected bike hooks from walmart and welded the two together and wrapped duct tape around it all, looks pretty good but it's rather long, looks like I'm gonna be making a shorter one, gotta love garage sales for cheap used golf clubs!
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04-08-12, 01:34 PM
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Re: How to tame my kings
The only way to "tame" a snake is to keep handling it. Even if it bites you/ tries to bite you, you still have to keep trying.
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04-08-12, 01:56 PM
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Re: How to tame my kings
It's been in my experience that young kings seem to think anything that moves is either food or thinks it's food so they bite both out of defense and food. Typically the bite doesn't hurt nor does it draw blood but can make a new owner hesitant to handle. My king has literally latched onto my boyfriend's fingers a couple of times...I guess thinking his finger was food and once tried to eat it. lol
The way I've been taming mine is to wear gloves when handling. It's not that I'm afraid of the bite, but if she does decide to bite, it's easier to get her off the glove than a finger.
Consistent handling in short time increments then working up to more frequent handling is a great way to 'tame' any snake to handling. Never immediately put them back up after a bite as they learn pretty quickly that if they bite, they go back home. I always hold mine for an extra 5 minutes after a bite so they don't learn this.
Due to my work schedule I haven't been able to work with my king as much as I'd like (and I won't let anyone else handle her until I can trust her to not try to eat my fingers) so my taming process with her has been slow. I've only been able to get her out for about 10 minutes once a week and so far she's doing well. Last time I handled her I even took my gloves off and she was still calm. So I can say I've been successful.
One thing you must remember with any new animal, be it dog, cat, snake, lizard, etc, is that there is a level of trust that has to be earned between handler and animal. They have to learn to trust that you won't hurt them and you have to trust them to be good. lol Earning that trust can be a little time consuming but is worth it to and needs to be consistent. At least with a king, bites aren't bad and rarely break the skin so it makes them somewhat easier to work with during this time. However, you don't want to overhandle in the beginning as it can cause stress which will can cause problems like not eating. Regardless of how well they take to handling in the beginning it's best to start out with short handling sessions and work your way up to longer and more frequent handling.
Good luck!
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04-08-12, 02:03 PM
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Re: How to tame my kings
thats great advice! thank you. my ball pythons were slightly nippy but it stopped. these guys just dont seem to like being handled lol. ill try the short consistant route. hopefully they learn to trust me.
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04-08-12, 02:06 PM
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Re: How to tame my kings
Well, you might want to illiminate hunger. I have a few that come straight at me mouth open, but once they have fed they calm down. Many people tend to underfeed their kings. They have huge appetites, and so the snakes many times are showing signs of hunger. Having said that, some kings are just nervous, from birth and may never calm down. Most will eventually clam down with frequent handling, but it really varies from one individual to another. Calm parents also seems to be a factor, so buying snakes that come from a calm dispositioned pair of parents can be worth finding. I have a few Florida kings that nevr show any signs of even thinking about biting me, then I have a couple that rattle their tails, and get in striking position, as soon as I open the cage. I hope this helps?
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04-08-12, 02:09 PM
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Re: How to tame my kings
Def. I'm open to any and all advice. I just posted some pics of them in the colubrid section. The female is the little black and white banded. The male is the big cream ( yellow) and white banded one.
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04-08-12, 02:21 PM
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Re: How to tame my kings
How long have you had them? They may need some (more) acclimation time.
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04-08-12, 02:38 PM
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Re: How to tame my kings
I've had these guys around a week 1/2 and just tried handling yesterday lol and today. Might let em be for a bit longer
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04-08-12, 03:08 PM
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Re: How to tame my kings
My rainbow took about 3 weeks of acclimating before I could do anything with her without her literally launching herself out of her tub at me. She ate everytime food was offered as long as it was live, but actually handling her was another story. lol I think some just need more acclimation time than others.
Try not having any interaction for another week and then try handling and see what happens.
Have they turned down any meals?
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04-08-12, 03:14 PM
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Re: How to tame my kings
Had my king for a while and he sometimes bites when he smells food and is cage defensive. If you have other snakes be sure to wash your hands before handling a king or it will smell "food" on your hand and bite. Kings are just like that. They can bite. Its in their nature. They aren't mean just high strung and dumb as dirt. Still great to have though!!
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