Fully loaded, top of the line, custom-built...

Strutter769 · 12-30-11, 12:05 PM

Those are powerful adjectives aren't they? Ever walk into a good hot dog stand (Hey, I'm in Chicago!) and say "Everything on it!?"

Think of each of those terms in relation to the ultimate enclosure. What features does it have? A drain, CHE protectors, thermostats, or a power strip? Maybe a waterfall?

What kind of lighting? Heating? Do you want RHP, ceramic, basking, UV? Realistic or functional background and flooring? Do you want someone to come build one for you in your living room?

Is it a corner- or wall-unit? Free-standing? Rectangular, octagonal, pyramid? Anything!
Go crazy! Dream big! Tell me what you want.

Ok, why am I asking this? Probably for the wrong reason actually. I have dreams of providing dream enclosures for all of you... at trade shows, swap meets, etc., etc..

It's ok to ask potential customers what they'd like to see in your product, right?

Have fun with this one!

Thanks everyone for all your input.

shaunyboy · 12-30-11, 12:11 PM

some vivariums i rate very highly

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...iwoPAw&cad=rja

this may also help,showing you whats already out there mate

http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct...GJbz-A&cad=rja

rhino viv's were great,but the company went out of buisness,after being sold to a new guy

cheers shaun

Strutter769 · 12-30-11, 01:08 PM

Shaun, thanks for the links! I'm glad you brought up this display - style cage. I'm a believer in giving a ln animal as much space as you can. A "Boaphile" - type cage that is only 24" high, to me seem cruel, too confining. I know that's not a popular opinion.

I am thinking something more along these lines: Reptile Cages : iguana cage, bearded dragon cage, reptile enclosure, custom wood reptile cages, snake cage, lizard cage

Which leads me to another question. How much are people willing to pay for the interior to already be completed? What if you got to design that too, and we added it for you?

Or, do you prefer a "blank slate" for more of a do-it-yourself?

shaunyboy · 12-30-11, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by strutter769

Shaun, thanks for the links! I'm glad you brought up this display - style cage. I'm a believer in giving a ln animal as much space as you can. A "Boaphile" - type cage that is only 24" high, to me seem cruel, too confining. I know that's not a popular opinion.

I am thinking something more along these lines: Reptile Cages : iguana cage, bearded dragon cage, reptile enclosure, custom wood reptile cages, snake cage, lizard cage

Which leads me to another question. How much are people willing to pay for the interior to already be completed? What if you got to design that too, and we added it for you?

Or, do you prefer a "blank slate" for more of a do-it-yourself?

so they're not all identical clones of each other,i think its a good idea to let the customer come up with their own design for the interior

or have a few strategicly placed perch mounts,fake plant mounts,etc.then you could sell the vivariums without the interior at a cheaper price,letting people pick up and fit their own interiors

i've heard that the hard plastic type vivariums are quite expensive material wise

the special type of plastic required to take the heat and humidity is expensive to make

i think the actual moulding of the vivarium,etc isn't too bad price wise

i wish you the best of luck with your ventures

cheers shaun

Strutter769 · 12-30-11, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by shaunyboy

so they're not all identical clones of each other,i think its a good idea to let the customer come up with their own design for the interior

or have a few strategicly placed perch mounts,fake plant mounts,etc.then you could sell the vivariums without the interior at a cheaper price,letting people pick up and fit their own......

cheers shaun

Great advice Shaun, thanks! So what I think you're saying is to build plant holders into the interior and let the end user choose what to out in them. Nice!

What about live plants? Wouldn't that be good for air quality in some way, creating new oxygen? I've used those "air plants" that live with no soil and only need to soak once a week. Those are cool too.

Lankyrob · 12-30-11, 01:22 PM

Personally with my mobility i would love the viv to be delivered to my living room fully set up, wired up etc and all i need to do is plug it in and then put the snake in a few days later.

Strutter769 · 12-30-11, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lankyrob

Personally with my mobility i would love the viv to be delivered to my living room fully set up, wired up etc and all i need to do is plug it in and then put the snake in a few days later.

Would you be willing to pay a fee to have one built into your living room?

I did that, and it'll now be sold with the house at some point. Not to mention the interior is done with cement, so it weighs about, oh I don't know.... a Volkswagen! Lol

Lankyrob · 12-30-11, 01:31 PM

I wouldnt want it built into the house - would still want it "moveable" so that if we moved house it would come with us. I would pay a premiun for not having to do any of the work tho

Strutter769 · 12-30-11, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lankyrob

I wouldnt want it built into the house - would still want it "moveable" so that if we moved house it would come with us. I would pay a premiun for not having to do any of the work tho

That makes me happy!

I'm curious how many would agree? I'm sure there are quite a few that really like doing it all, and the sense of accomplishment when you see it....
Every.....single.....night! Lol

presspirate · 12-30-11, 02:59 PM

As one with "Pet" Snakes, and not just breeders. I would like a Display cage to be viewable from 3 sides. With a infra red light for night time viewing. A drain would be great a misting system on a timer similar to what a super market has in the produce section. Wide doors for easy retreivel and cleaning. A zoo quality enclosure for the home at an affordable price.

Now you got me thinking.

Strutter769 · 12-30-11, 03:24 PM

Love it, pirate! Keep thinkin' and keep on typin' my friend!

Quack · 12-30-11, 03:51 PM

what about something like this:

with the decorative moulding at the top and it being anchored to the wall.
What about built-in rock structures made of grout or cement, such as basking shelves and water dishes.
you could section off a waterproof area for semi-aquatic species
ive had a lot of ideas for cages, i just cant remember them all right now

Strutter769 · 12-30-11, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Quack

what about something like this:

with the decorative moulding at the top and it being anchored to the wall.
What about built-in rock structures made of grout or cement, such as basking shelves and water dishes.
you could section off a waterproof area for semi-aquatic species
ive had a lot of ideas for cages, i just cant remember them all right now

I really like this one, Quack. More of a picture frame than a piece of furniture. Would this work for garters, etc.? Good for snakes that don't need much additional heat.

This is an example how we used the cement and made styrofoam "rocks" etc.:

Quack · 12-30-11, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by strutter769

Would this work for garters, etc.? Good for snakes that don't need much additional heat.

If youre asking if sectioning off a water area would work for garters, yes, it would definately work for garters. I have a sectioned off area in a75 gallon aquarium for my northern water snake

Strutter769 · 12-30-11, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Quack

If youre asking if sectioning off a water area would work for garters, yes, it would definately work for garters. I have a sectioned off area in a75 gallon aquarium for my northern water snake

No, I was referring to size. This one hanging on the wall is small. Couldn't get much of wheat variance I'd guess.