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11-20-11, 02:46 PM
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nutritional considerations of feeding adult corn a small rat
So our adult corn eats 3-4 adult mice per week. He has eaten a few small rats in the past that I had thawed for my ball python and he had refused. I was wondering if there is any nutritional contraindication to me feeding him a small to med rat weekly. It would be more cost effective.
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11-20-11, 03:00 PM
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Re: nutritional considerations of feeding adult corn a small rat
I would go with the rat. As far as I'm aware its better on their system to feed 1 Item a week vs a few items a week. All of my snakes eat proper sized rats with no issue.
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11-20-11, 04:44 PM
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Re: nutritional considerations of feeding adult corn a small rat
Well he eats all 4 mice in one sitting so we are still only feeding him once a week. As long as there are no nutritional contraindications I will switch to rats.
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11-20-11, 04:51 PM
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Re: nutritional considerations of feeding adult corn a small rat
Must be a big *** corn lol... hungry boy.
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11-20-11, 04:57 PM
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Re: nutritional considerations of feeding adult corn a small rat
i use this when working out nutritional values
Rodent Pro's Nutrient Composition
cheers shaun
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11-20-11, 05:24 PM
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Re: nutritional considerations of feeding adult corn a small rat
My adult corn (about 4.5ft long) eats ONE xl mouse every 14 days! How big is your corn???
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11-20-11, 05:27 PM
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Re: nutritional considerations of feeding adult corn a small rat
I have been feeding my corn rats for quite a while, just because it's convenient for me.
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11-20-11, 05:31 PM
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Re: nutritional considerations of feeding adult corn a small rat
He big for a corn. Around 5 feet . I haven't measured or weighed him recently. Or maybe ever... He is a 2005 hatchling. I have a hard time finding big mice also and the large frozen ones arent that big either. With less than 3 he is usually out the next day. With 3 or more he hunkers down in his hide for about 24 hours.
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11-20-11, 05:39 PM
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Re: nutritional considerations of feeding adult corn a small rat
From that it seems the rats are higher fat lower protein than mice.
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11-20-11, 05:55 PM
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Re: nutritional considerations of feeding adult corn a small rat
A few people on the cornsnake forums said that it could lead to calcium deficiencies? That sounds kind of ludicrous to me. They also voiced concerns that my corn may be overweight? Does he look overweight?
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11-21-11, 07:46 AM
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Re: nutritional considerations of feeding adult corn a small rat
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Originally Posted by ashleynicole
A few people on the cornsnake forums said that it could lead to calcium deficiencies? That sounds kind of ludicrous to me. They also voiced concerns that my corn may be overweight? Does he look overweight?
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It is very ludicrous. Show them that link that Shaun put up and tell them that mice actually have slightly more calcium. You'll get to look like a smarty pants! 
I agree with the others, he looks healthy and fine.
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11-21-11, 08:04 AM
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Re: nutritional considerations of feeding adult corn a small rat
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Originally Posted by jarich
It is very ludicrous. Show them that link that Shaun put up and tell them that mice actually have slightly more calcium. You'll get to look like a smarty pants!
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Thanks, I've seen overweight snakes with fatty deposits and our boy doesn't have anything like that. I have enough mice for a few more feedings, then I will switch to small rats.
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11-20-11, 06:16 PM
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Re: nutritional considerations of feeding adult corn a small rat
Looks very normal to me.
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11-20-11, 06:22 PM
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Re: nutritional considerations of feeding adult corn a small rat
When we rescued ourshe was fat, about three inches to ghe front and behind the cloaca were obvious fatty deposits, these are now basically gone with better feeding practice and the fact we actually handle him so he gets some exercise.
Yours doesnt look to have these at all, looks really nice.
The advice we were given with an adult that isnt growing is that feeding every 14 days will help maintain weight without him getting overweight, when he was dieting i was feeding a medium mouse every 21 days.
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11-20-11, 06:44 PM
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Re: nutritional considerations of feeding adult corn a small rat
Thanks that makes sense to me, I appreciate the input.
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