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09-06-11, 10:29 PM
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Rats vs. Mice
Okay guys, I'm sure this has been asked before but I couldn't find anything. I'm going to be getting about 5 months supply of frozen rodents next weekend and my question is. Are rats more nutritious for snakes than mice. My little corn is scarfing down mice pinkies very quickly and someone recommended trying rat pinkies soon. If I did that, I thought about getting rats in the appropriate sizes for my other snakes also. Personally, I'll just stick with mice unless rats have more nutritional value or something. I've been reading online but some say yes and others say no.
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09-06-11, 10:58 PM
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Re: Rats vs. Mice
rats have a higher fat content than mice, so for a growing or breeding snake they are good. (according to Khuno's breeder) for maintenance diets for adult non-breeders, mice seems to be the concensus.
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09-07-11, 04:09 AM
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Re: Rats vs. Mice
For corns mice are best for life as they dont need the added nutrients that rats bring and are prone to getting fat at adult size.
Most boas/pythons however seem to do better with rats as they need a bigger meal to fill them up and it is easier to say give an adult JCP one xl rat than 8 or 9 mice.
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09-07-11, 06:02 AM
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Re: Rats vs. Mice
Rob nailed it.
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09-07-11, 06:21 AM
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Re: Rats vs. Mice
K got it. I'll leave the corns on mice and start introducing rats to the boas.
Thanks again guys!
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09-07-11, 06:26 AM
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Re: Rats vs. Mice
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09-08-11, 12:04 PM
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Re: Rats vs. Mice
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Originally Posted by stephanbakir
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I read this over, very interesting!! But (correct me if I am wrong) but it looks like they are listing mice at having more fat than the rat at certain life stages: ie:
Mouse Juvi @ 30.1%
Rat Juvi @ 27.5%
The adult mouse vs rat fat ratio is more what I expected, the mouse is leaner.
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09-07-11, 08:30 AM
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Re: Rats vs. Mice
I feed most of my colubrids rat pups, they seem to thrive on them..
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09-07-11, 08:58 AM
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Re: Rats vs. Mice
I'm probably gonna get some mice and rats.......maybe they will like a little variety, lol !
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09-07-11, 09:36 AM
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Re: Rats vs. Mice
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Originally Posted by ladyjustice33
I'm probably gonna get some mice and rats.......maybe they will like a little variety, lol !
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This is actually smart, if you raise a snake to take either, then your options broaden, meaning if rat pups are on sale, capitalize on the sale.
I bought 300 frozen rat pinks for 15 cents each on sale once, even my larger garter snakes took them with gusto.
a month later "fuzzy mice" were on sale, same size meal.. so that's what I ordered.
In this economy, saving every penny counts.
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09-07-11, 10:25 AM
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Re: Rats vs. Mice
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Originally Posted by infernalis
This is actually smart, if you raise a snake to take either, then your options broaden, meaning if rat pups are on sale, capitalize on the sale.
I bought 300 frozen rat pinks for 15 cents each on sale once, even my larger garter snakes took them with gusto.
a month later "fuzzy mice" were on sale, same size meal.. so that's what I ordered.
In this economy, saving every penny counts.
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Damn... I pay 95cents per pinky here... and 5-7$ per XXL.
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09-07-11, 10:13 AM
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Re: Rats vs. Mice
So true wayne.....
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09-07-11, 12:16 PM
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Re: Rats vs. Mice
****, the only place here that sells frozen pinkies have the priced at 1.40ish
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09-07-11, 12:31 PM
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Re: Rats vs. Mice
when I have to pay (if I don't have the right size in stock myself) I pay $0.40/ mouse pinkie and $0.71 for rat pinkies
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09-07-11, 01:54 PM
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Re: Rats vs. Mice
I prefer to get all my animals over on rats, as I breed them myself. It's not usually a problem.
I also feel that they get more of a meal from the rat, less fur involved. Haven't actually computed the sq inches of skin vs weight but it works for me!
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