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08-17-11, 03:55 PM
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Why waste money on heat lamps?
Ball Pythons don't need them, why are you wasting money on them? Why waste money on a screen top that allows humidity to escape when you can use a piece of wood and a brick?
Boggles my mind folks.
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08-17-11, 04:04 PM
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Re: Why waste money on heat lamps?
Some people have the opinion radiant heat is better than underneath or on the side. I personally think from the side is just fine, my snakes seem healthy.
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08-17-11, 04:49 PM
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Re: Why waste money on heat lamps?
Belly heat is best for most snakes, ambient is still important though.
Screen tops are also just asking for nose rub.
I personally like uth's for most terrariums and RHP/UTH combos for larger ones.
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08-17-11, 04:51 PM
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Re: Why waste money on heat lamps?
I go with flexwatt and a RHP for my ball.. he is in a 4' x 2' x 18" viv and his heat and humidity have been spot on for a few months. I am scared of fires and other issues heat lamps can cause...
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08-17-11, 06:03 PM
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Re: Why waste money on heat lamps?
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Originally Posted by Dehlida
Ball Pythons don't need them, why are you wasting money on them? Why waste money on a screen top that allows humidity to escape when you can use a piece of wood and a brick?
Boggles my mind folks.
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why make annoying posts?
boggles my mind broseph.
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08-17-11, 06:12 PM
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Re: Why waste money on heat lamps?
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why make annoying posts?
boggles my mind broseph.
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How is this an annoying post, it's 100% legitimate- heat lamps are 100% waste for ball pythons unless you live in like, antartica and your house isn't heated.
Stop trying to be a troll, you're failing, and you know NOTHING about reptile husbandry as demonstrated by your posts.
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08-17-11, 06:31 PM
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Re: Why waste money on heat lamps?
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Originally Posted by Dehlida
How is this an annoying post, it's 100% legitimate- heat lamps are 100% waste for ball pythons unless you live in like, antartica and your house isn't heated.
Stop trying to be a troll, you're failing, and you know NOTHING about reptile husbandry as demonstrated by your posts.
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i like how you keep personally attacking me and my "apparent lack of husbandry knowledge"
let me go ahead and elaborate. what was the point of your post? to tell people that heat bulbs are inferior and not to be used? i for one think you're wrong and the point you're making only has half validity. i have a screen top with a CHE and everything is perfectly fine. to each his own is something you don't seem to understand.for you it either seems to be your way, or they're an idiot.
also i think its funny that you call me a troll just because i have issues with the things you say. i certainly have the right to debate your point if i think it's stupid or invalid. show a PINCH of respect by at least knowing the facts before you pointlessly slander people.
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08-17-11, 06:16 PM
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Re: Why waste money on heat lamps?
Round 1 *Ding, ding*
@Delila I use lights for my night and day cycle, I just have 40w smoked bulbs. As for the screen lid they are ok when modified.
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08-17-11, 06:32 PM
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Re: Why waste money on heat lamps?
Well I guess I live In antartica haha? My ambient temp is NO were near correct without my low wattage heat lamp. My girl has a belly heat under one hide but it does not keep the rest of the tank at correct temps. Not waste of money for me. Keeps my girl from freezing :S brrr
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08-17-11, 07:09 PM
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Re: Why waste money on heat lamps?
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Originally Posted by TeaNinja
i like how you keep personally attacking me and my "apparent lack of husbandry knowledge"
let me go ahead and elaborate. what was the point of your post? to tell people that heat bulbs are inferior and not to be used? i for one think you're wrong and the point you're making only has half validity. i have a screen top with a CHE and everything is perfectly fine. to each his own is something you don't seem to understand.for you it either seems to be your way, or they're an idiot.
also i think its funny that you call me a troll just because i have issues with the things you say. i certainly have the right to debate your point if i think it's stupid or invalid. show a PINCH of respect by at least knowing the facts before you pointlessly slander people.
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I've been keeping and breeding snakes for 15 years. Seal the top of the enclosure, and put a working under tank heater. All the heat will be trapped inside. You get nice ambient air temps, your humidity stays inside the cage, and you still get the amazing benefit of the UTH aiding digestion.
Yeah, let's get a bulb and a screen top and dry out our cage forcing us to mist all the time while throwing light at nocturnal/underground dwelling snakes. I'll enjoy never having to do a bit of work with my animals because it's self maintaining
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08-17-11, 07:15 PM
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Snake Child
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Re: Why waste money on heat lamps?
Guys let's not start again. Many people have different opinions and there isn't just one right answer always. Just step back, take a deep breath and respect each others opinions.
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08-17-11, 07:30 PM
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Re: Why waste money on heat lamps?
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Guys let's not start again. Many people have different opinions and there isn't just one right answer always. Just step back, take a deep breath and respect each others opinions.
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I stated something, it wasn't trolling, and it wasn't a worthless post.
This tea guy follows me around like a lost defeated puppy looking for a fight at every turn, it's pretty funny.
However, seeing as though it's an "opinion" how come nearly every big snake breeder will agree that UTH are better than lamps?
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08-17-11, 07:34 PM
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Snake Child
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Re: Why waste money on heat lamps?
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Originally Posted by Dehlida
I stated something, it wasn't trolling, and it wasn't a worthless post.
This tea guy follows me around like a lost defeated puppy looking for a fight at every turn, it's pretty funny.
However, seeing as though it's an "opinion" how come nearly every big snake breeder will agree that UTH are better than lamps? 
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I never said you were trolling or anything, and in fact I very much agree that uth is better in most cases. But if Tea's snake is healthy with the conditions he's in there's no need for this. I come here for learning about snakes not for a soap opera
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08-17-11, 08:20 PM
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Re: Why waste money on heat lamps?
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Originally Posted by Dehlida
However, seeing as though it's an "opinion" how come nearly every big snake breeder will agree that UTH are better than lamps? 
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Its more cost efficient, and rigged easier for a large amount of snakes. That doesn't make it more efficient for heating. A lot of snake keepers in general believe that a uth should not be the main source of heat. Heat lamps also present a night and day scheduled. Alot of people use lamps for ball pythons.. i use them for all the snakes i currently thermoregulate.
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08-18-11, 08:09 PM
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Re: Why waste money on heat lamps?
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Originally Posted by youngster
Guys let's not start again. Many people have different opinions and there isn't just one right answer always. Just step back, take a deep breath and respect each others opinions.
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You sure you're only 13 youngster, lol ???? You seem lot more mature than some of the "adults" on here!!
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