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02-13-08, 04:59 PM
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dry nose
Hello
I just picked up a rainbow boa and she is about 10 months old. I have a large water dish in her home big enough for her to soke in. She look fine except her nose. it is very dry. What can I do?
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02-14-08, 04:12 AM
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Re: dry nose
A big waterdish alone isnt going to give them the humidity they need, and when it gets too dry it will often show on their scales. Make sure her humidity is where it needs to be and it should correct itself, it may take a shed though for it to look normal again.
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02-14-08, 03:55 PM
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Re: dry nose
Review the entire setup. What is the actual humidity? Do you know? You can get devices to measure it to know for sure. Whats the substrate? What is the enclosuer? Does it have humid hides? Do you do any misting of its enclosure? If the snake is a new one in a new house it will be figuring out the boundries & if it can escape, it could be a nose rub from doing so? Could also be due to something in the cage its rubbing its nose against. Nose rubs are also sometimes due to the snake being too hot, too cold etc. & trying to get out/away because it is not happy with the conditions its being kept in. Lots of lil things that could be the cause, Mark
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02-18-08, 10:53 AM
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Re: dry nose
I was given many different suggestions on what to use as a substraight and so since they were all different I with the Vets suggestion, astro turf. I wet it daily. she is in a glass tank with a mesh lid which we taped off 3/4 so it hold the humidity better, she has an under tank heater which keeps it at about 80 F at night and a sunglow light to boost it in the day to 88-90F. the thing I got for her humidity sits at the blue section which reads 75-80%.
She shed finally and her nose is still looking dry, the rest of her is great.
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02-18-08, 12:43 PM
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Re: dry nose
did she shed fully? perhaps there is some shed stuck on her nose. its hard to tell from the picture.
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02-18-08, 01:48 PM
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Re: dry nose
Astroturf is one of the absolute WORST substrates you can use. A breeding ground for bacteria that just harbours it as well. Ditch that crap & go with papertowels. Why? They are far more sainitary & by far easier as well. Snakes takes a big pee/crap on astroturf, now you have to clean & sterilize it, have fun doing that properly (most people don't) LOL or use papertowel & just throw it away & replace it with fresh clean ones. Which is far easier & cleaner? Also that Astroturf crap can be giving off fumes when heated by the UTH (under tank heater) & the heat & continual use will just break it down more & more with each washing & you will be washing it alot Ask any 100 snake breeders & see how many use astroturf, I bet you do not find a single one. The only folks that usually suggest using that crap are either employeed in the petstore where they sell it or are inadvertantly clueless about husbandry that is actually practical & safe. If you find an old outdated book it may suggest it there as well. likely where the vet came up with the idea. Mark
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02-18-08, 09:47 PM
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Re: dry nose
Not to mention how it can really start to smell after awhile, especially with such high humidity. I used newspaper and paper towels when I had a rainbow.
90F seems pretty high, I never kept mine over 85F and sometimes even that was too high, they prefer it cooler nad mine would go off feed when it got too warm. Also overhead lights will really dry the air out. Most under tank heaters too get way too hot especially on glass. What kind of thermometer are you using?
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02-18-08, 10:24 PM
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Re: dry nose
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Not to mention how it can really start to smell after awhile, especially with such high humidity. I used newspaper and paper towels when I had a rainbow.
90F seems pretty high, I never kept mine over 85F and sometimes even that was too high, they prefer it cooler nad mine would go off feed when it got too warm. Also overhead lights will really dry the air out. Most under tank heaters too get way too hot especially on glass. What kind of thermometer are you using?
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I'll second that. Good point, being a Boid I myself too thought the higher temps would be good, but having never actually kept them was corrected by someone who had. They do prefer cooler temps for a Boid & a hotspot of 85F is hot enough for these guys & shoot for a coolside of closer to 75F. More like keeping an average Colubrid temps wise. Mark
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02-24-08, 08:01 PM
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Re: dry nose
Thanks for all the help! when she shed it was all curled up and broke when I tryed to straighten it out to see if she shed completly.
I have a digital temperature gauge that sits 5" off the bottom of her tank and 1/4 the length to the hot side.
Ill change her cage but I don't think I like the paper towel or news paper with the humidity she needs.
Any thing else I could use?
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02-26-08, 04:26 AM
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Re: dry nose
The thermometer needs to be right at the substrate level the snake is, not 5'' up on the glass, to get the temp the snake is actually encountering.
I love cypress mulch for humidity needing snakes. Also look into making a humid hide, which is easier then trying to maintain a high humidity in the whole enclosure.
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02-27-08, 11:53 AM
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Re: dry nose
Should this humbie hide be on the hot side or cold side. her tank is only 30 gal. she has a large snake cave rock and a water dish big enough that she can get into it. they are at either end the rock over the under tank heater, and that leaves about 12-14 inches of space between.
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02-27-08, 01:36 PM
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Re: dry nose
I'd go for the center space thats available, Mark
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02-28-08, 03:00 PM
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Re: dry nose
Doesnt this need to be big enought for her to go in? I would need a fair size container, she 3.5 feet long
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03-03-08, 08:27 AM
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Re: dry nose
Something big enough for her to coil into, they love tight spaces. I'd say a gallon ice cream tub would be perfect, or a plastic shoebox.
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03-03-08, 01:07 PM
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Re: dry nose
They do tend to like their hides tight yep, a little shoebox rubbermaid is what I use for nesting boxes for 3-4 ft snakes. They fit in there along with their eggs no problems, Mark
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