What do garter snakes go for?

JasonIII · 07-16-06, 08:38 PM

I was looking for garter snakes on www.reptileauction.com, but I couldn't find any listed. Would they be worth anything if I tried to sell them online? Also, how would I go about shipping them so that they'd get to the buyer alive and well?
God bless, Jason Irelan

DaemoNox · 07-17-06, 03:54 AM

It depends on their species, morph, and if they're wild caught or captive bred. The Kingsnake.com classifieds is a good place to start looking at the price range to go for. A search online will also bring up good information about shipping, I can dig up links a little later about how to become certified with fedex to ship live reptiles legally.

JasonIII · 07-17-06, 02:12 PM

We had a bull snake in our yard the other week. I caught it, but we let it go. If anyone's interested, I can try to catch it again and sell it. I'm not interested in bull snakes personally unless they're babies because I know they have an attitude and won't let most people pick them up without biting them, and I have a hard time sneaking up on them to get a good hold of them. This one was no exception. It's an adult bull snake. I don't know what gender it is.
God bless, Jason Irelan

gonesnakee · 07-17-06, 11:18 PM

FYI it is usually illegal to traffic (buy/sell) in indigenous species (ones native to your area) in most places. I would first check into the local & state laws & start from there. Personally its all just sounds like POACHING to me but thats just my opinion. Make sure you also study up on internal & external parasites & how to treat them as most wildcaught specimens are carriers. Your best bet would be to leave them be in the wild so that they can enjoy their life where they were meant to be & others can also enjoy viewing them in their natural habitat. I'm sure you can find yourself a summer job or something a little more ethical to do to make some money. Mark

DaemoNox · 07-18-06, 07:43 AM

Also theres a very low want for wild caught garters or bull snakes, many people are captive producing them.

JasonIII · 07-19-06, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by DaemoNox

Also theres a very low want for wild caught garters or bull snakes, many people are captive producing them.

Okay, then if I bought a male and a female garter snake; and they mated, how much would I be able to sell the babies for? I know they can produce up to 85 snakes, which is a lot of snakes. Do people try to cross the breeds of snakes like they do dogs? For instance, would it be possible to mate a rattlesnake with a coral snake. It'd be interesting to watch a little male blind snake trying to hump a female reticulated python or a female anaconda that's in heat. Pet stores in my state aren't allowed to carry poisonous snakes. That would be okay, except that I'm wanting to get into the Guinness Book of World Records. There are two ladies in Texas who sat in bathtubs that had 76 rattlesnakes in each tub, so I need 76 defanged rattlesnakes to break the record. There's also a guy who's in the Guinness Book of World Records for kissing 10 monocle cobra and a king cobra, so I need 11 defanged monocle cobras and two defanged king cobras to break that record. I wrote a letter to Guinness and asked if they'd be interested in a record for French kissing garter snakes.
God bless, Jason Irelan

JasonIII · 07-19-06, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by gonesnakee

FYI it is usually illegal to traffic (buy/sell) in indigenous species (ones native to your area) in most places. I would first check into the local & state laws & start from there. Personally its all just sounds like POACHING to me but thats just my opinion. Make sure you also study up on internal & external parasites & how to treat them as most wildcaught specimens are carriers. Your best bet would be to leave them be in the wild so that they can enjoy their life where they were meant to be & others can also enjoy viewing them in their natural habitat. I'm sure you can find yourself a summer job or something a little more ethical to do to make some money. Mark

Okay then. Here I was hoping I might be able to trade it for a garter snake, but I guess I'll have to wait until I can find a pet store that has them or until I'm able to buy a garter snake from someone online. I'll trade a More Snakes video by Bob Popplewell and a book called Boas and Other Non-Poisonous Snakes for a garter snake.
How much do flying snakes cost? I read in that book that flying snakes are considered a hard to keep snake. Is that because they escape more easily than normal snakes? Or is it because they're aggressive and tend to bite? Or is it because their needs are hard to meet? The book didn't say. The author said he didn't have enough space to go into the details as to why certain snakes are harder to keep. I don't know why he didn't just write a bigger book that explained why. Can flying snakes glide through the air horizontally? I know they usually drop from one tree branch to another.
God bless, Jason Irelan

JasonIII · 07-22-06, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DaemoNox

It depends on their species, morph, and if they're wild caught or captive bred. The Kingsnake.com classifieds is a good place to start looking at the price range to go for. A search online will also bring up good information about shipping, I can dig up links a little later about how to become certified with fedex to ship live reptiles legally.

I looked at the Kingsnake.com classifieds; but it covered king snakes, not garter snakes. I found two people trying to sell garter snakes, and they were wanting $100 or $140 for Eastern garter snakes. I don't know what Eastern garter snakes are, but the garter snakes I'm wondering about are the ones I used to be able to find around our house when I got very lucky. I checked the Snakes of North America website at www.pitt.edu/~mcs2/herp/SoNA.html; and the snakes I used to find looked a lot like either Butler's garter snakes, Western terrestrial garter snakes, giant garter snakes, or common garter snakes.
God bless, Jason Irelan

pythonregius76 · 07-22-06, 10:51 PM

Is this guy for real? Honestly - from everything he has posted thus far all I see is a guy trying to get a rise out of the good, intelligent people who use these forums - and he seems to be succeeding.

Now, let's be honest, anyone who openly discusses torturing any animal through mutilation, or chasing them around with toys, is either in need of a serious psychiatric evaluation, or he is just trying to be funny (although so far has proven nothing more than what a troll he really is).

If he is genuinely interested in keeping any type of animal, the first piece of advice I would give is reconsider any thought along those lines - get yourself a stuffed toy instead. At least then he would have something else with a troll's intelligence to talk to instead of wasting all of your time.

Rob Reid
Edmonton AB

JasonIII · 07-23-06, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by pythonregius76

Is this guy for real? Honestly - from everything he has posted thus far all I see is a guy trying to get a rise out of the good, intelligent people who use these forums - and he seems to be succeeding.

I'm not trying to get a rise. I'm trying to get a live garter snake, and I'm not going to quit until I do.

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Originally Posted by pythonregius76

Now, let's be honest, anyone who openly discusses torturing any animal through mutilation, or chasing them around with toys, is either in need of a serious psychiatric evaluation, or he is just trying to be funny (although so far has proven nothing more than what a troll he really is).

I never openly said anything about torturing a snake through mutilation; and you're going to get a nasty PM for what you just said, since I'm sure the moderators wouldn't approve of insults and name calling on their forums. Although calling me a troll for something I didn't even do should certainly qualify as name calling, so I don't know why you're still a registered user. Like I keep trying to tell everyone, I'M NOT IN THE MARKET FOR A VENOMOUS SNAKE RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!!!!! I'm wanting a garter snake. The cheaper the better. I offered to mow my neighbor's lawn if they'd get me one; and I doubt they'd pay $140 to have their lawn mowed, which is why I'm not interested in an Eastern garter snake. I SAID THAT IF I WERE TO HAVE A SNAKE'S FANGS OR VENOMOUS SAC REMOVED, I'D WANT IT DONE BY A CARING VETERINARIAN UNDER AN ANESTHETIC, WHICH WOULD MAKE THE PROCEDURE COMPLETELY PAINLESS, NOT HAVE AN UNOFFICIAL PERSON GIVE IT A BUTCHER JOB. Okay, I didn't propose the idea of having a snake's venomous sac surgically removed before; but I am now. The post about a coral snake that didn't survive the procedure being harmless was a joke, since I wouldn't have any use for a dead snake. Just because I made a couple hypothetical statements about how I would tease a snake if I wanted one for that purpose doesn't mean I don't deserve to have a garter snake. I've been interested in snakes since I first saw one by a creek when I was little, and I would never chase a garter snake with a radio controlled vehicle because all it would do is run from it, and that kind of reaction doesn't interest me. I'd rather do that with a rattlesnake because I know they're more aggressive and will strike; but fortunately, I'm not interested in a venomous snake right now.
God bless, Jason Irelan

DaemoNox · 07-23-06, 07:19 PM

You do realise how childish that is, no sense of responsibility at all. Harrassing a snake with radio controlled car is torturing it; how about we run something into you or poke you just because we want to see you get mad and attack it. It doesnt matter how old you are, you still need to grow up. I would not trust a living creature in your general area if thats your idea of how to respect and handle them, (you could do everyone a favor and tease the rattler with your hand or foot instead of the car).

If anyone gets a nasty PM from this guy foreward it to me.