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12-10-02, 12:00 PM
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mice killing
I know many people use CO2 to kill there mice. What is another easy way of killing them before freezing them of feeding them already warm .
Thanks
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12-10-02, 12:57 PM
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IMO, cervical dislocation is the quickest and most human, other than CO2
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12-10-02, 08:15 PM
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I just put them in a pillowcase (one at a time) and wack them off the cement wall. If done correctly (this means HARD and FAST) they die instantly, no suffering at all.
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12-10-02, 09:02 PM
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Linds, how do you do that? I mean, i think that you have guts to, cuz i cant! When you started were you scared/sad? I dont care that you kill your mice this way, im not complaining or anything, i just want to know how you got used to it, cuz i know some day I may have to do it. I love rats, i had pet rats, so its hard for me to feed rats, unless they are pre-killed. BUT I HATE MICE! THEY ARE SICK LIL B@$t3rds! lol, sorry, but i think they are mean freaks. lol
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12-10-02, 09:23 PM
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We do the same thing with the pillow case... it's even a black one... ye' olde pillah case o' death... don't feel bad J.J... I have to do all the rats. Tay will not bat an eyelash at the mice... but she has a special affinity to the rats. I don't relish in it myself... but my babies have to eat and when it comes to snakes or rats - it's not a hard decision for me...
Jon
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12-10-02, 09:33 PM
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I used to get really grossed out when I first started killing rats using the pillowcase method.. the twitching and blood. Now I am used to it and dont even flinch at the thump when the pillowcase hits the wall.
It is a little unnerving in the beginning, but you will get used to it.
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12-10-02, 09:40 PM
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From someone who couldn't bring themself to kill an ant...
Well, I used to breed Berkshire rats for a chain of stores when I was younger to make some extra money - not as feeders... they were pets producing pets. I get attached to rats quite easily, and in the beginning it was AWFUL. But I just kicked myself in the butt and told myself to get over it! I stil have trouble to this day, and whenever I feel myself hesitant to pick up one of the ones that I started to form an attachment to I just do it really fast before I even have time to think about it. I've never found myself getting attached to mice - and I didn't feel bad for them since many times when I was picking them up to put them in the pillowcase they would give me a good bite - but even they took a while to get used to. I can't even kill an ant or housefly, but this isn't killing something in vain, I'm just keeping the cycle of life going, and I'm doing it in a humane manner which makes it ok.
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12-10-02, 09:52 PM
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Hey look at it this way... they live the lives of the sacrificed god - they are fed and pampered and every need is taken care of - then they are sacrificed for the greater good.
Jon
PS Mice bite the h*ll out of me too...
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12-13-02, 09:48 PM
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you could try a hammer.
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12-14-02, 12:36 PM
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I use the pillow case method as well and it was tough at first, I felt bad for being the "bringer of death" to the mouse. Funny, I never had a problem with my snake killing mice, as long as I didn't have to get my hands "dirty"!
After my bp got bit a couple of times, that's when I decided to prekill the mice. I gathered up my nerves and did it. One good whack against the toilet bowl and the deed is done. At first I didn't always whack them hard enough, they were stunned when given to my snake and that worked too.
The times I felt really bad was when I was trying to convert my bp to young rats and she refused them. I hated killing a rat for nothing...
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12-14-02, 07:15 PM
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just don;t swing so hard you crush their ribs...did that once and it sucked!! Mover muscles lol
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12-17-02, 07:05 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by Linds
I just put them in a pillowcase (one at a time) and wack them off the cement wall. If done correctly (this means HARD and FAST) they die instantly, no suffering at all.
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Not to start an arguement (because i know everyone here likes to yell and complain when someone has a different opinion)
but how do you accuractly assume you do this painlessly? People fall out of planes and live, others shoot themselves in the head point blank and live, but they do expieriance pain before they die. If i put you in a big bag and slammed you against a wall i think it would hurt wouldnt it?
(again, not to start an arguement, i just felt that was innaccurate.)
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12-17-02, 07:14 PM
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Re: From someone who couldn't bring themself to kill an ant...
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Originally posted by Linds
and I'm doing it in a humane manner which makes it ok.
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Once again...... "humanely" isn't slamming something against the cement (who's to say you dont get their rear end, and not their head?).. thats inhumane.. Humane would be spending investing in c02 gas. (yeah that suffocates, but thats alot more painless than a hammer, or a cement surface)
(don't post that iam some hippy just complaining, because iam not. I just disagree with your logic. (if thats what you call it) I also use mice as feeders, multiple mice in every feed. (i have probably as many monitors are you do snakes, oh and some of which like to tear their food apart, my feeders are adult mice killed with c02 gas)
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iam sure a mouse with severe head trauma will die instantly, but what if it doesnt? c02 kills them right away.
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12-17-02, 09:26 PM
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whats with the over use of parenthesis?
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12-17-02, 09:28 PM
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That's some good ol' sarcasm!
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