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11-29-05, 02:30 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2005
Location: GA
Age: 45
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Finally found a vet! Now how do I do this?
And I couldn't be any happier! I looked through all the listings in the phone book and NONE of them said they saw exotics. I was whining to a friend of mine about it and she helped me find one that saw them! Yay! :groove:
So I took Sorin in today to figure out what was wrong with him. Turns out the doc had to squeeze the sh*t out of him......literally! It was very gross, the poor thing was backed WAAAAAAAAAAAAY up! The doctor said I needed to get more fiber in him. :dumb: How do I do that????
I have some metamucil, and th doc said I could cover the mouse in it, but im afraid that he will refuse the mouse because of the smell. So, what can I feed the mouse to make sure my snake gets enough fiber?
Oh, the joys of snake ownership! They need one of those "For Dummies" books on Ball Pythons! But at least my snake is going to be ok! Yay!
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11-29-05, 03:00 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2005
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How big is your snake, and what is he/she eating? Hair acts as a natural fibre for snakes, so if he's eating pinkies or even fuzzies, you may want to move him up to small adults. Actually, even very young ball pythons should be able to eat fairly mature mice.
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11-30-05, 12:05 AM
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Join Date: Sep-2002
Location: Calgary, AB
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I think you just found another vet who doesn't know much about snakes. I bet he would have passed all of that with a good soak. Keep him well hydrated and he'll poop when he has to poop. I've had snakes poop and you would swear that there was another snake in there, lol. No extra fibre required, just high quality rodents and clean water.
Ron
Last edited by Ron; 11-30-05 at 07:17 AM..
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11-30-05, 02:43 AM
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Join Date: Nov-2003
Location: Toronto
Age: 42
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Yea i was going to say you could always feed your rodents more fiber too... but then you prolly have frozen. lol Silly me.. not as easy to gut load like crix are ~_~! hehe
Your vet had to squeeze the heck outta the snake? That sounds so odd to me and very stressful..O_o hope your snake buddy is alright!
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11-30-05, 11:19 AM
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Join Date: May-2004
Location: montreal
Age: 39
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a young ball python should be started on rat right from the get go...... the rule of thumb is that is the snake is able to take a large rat full grown it should be able to take a small rat as a baby, works for most snakes, plus you dont have to switch them over later on....
just my 2 cents
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11-30-05, 11:53 AM
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I have a little guy that is only about four months old and he now pounds a pinkie rat every 5 days. I am getting ready to move him up to fuzzies once a week. He seems to have no problem defecating. It took a little patience to get him to eat the first rat when I got him, but now he nails them with no hesitation. I agree with starting them on rats right away when they are young - it is harder to switch them over when they are older.
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12-01-05, 03:37 PM
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Join Date: May-2004
Location: montreal
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Originally Posted by Bluzmn59
I have a little guy that is only about four months old and he now pounds a pinkie rat every 5 days. .
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wow a whole pinkie rat you must really not like your snake, you think a pinkie rat every 5 days will satisfy your snake.....nope try moving up to 14-21 day old rats usually 30-60grams my new ball python is about 2 months and is eating f/t 60g rats every 6-8 days.
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12-01-05, 04:34 PM
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Join Date: Jun-2005
Location: Hamilton, ON
Age: 39
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You could always buy the mice (if that's what you really want to stick to) live, and then pre-kill or freeze them yourself.
If you're in GA, then I would suggest rodent pro. Switching to rats will save you money in the long run, because you'll be feeding multiple mice, when it could be just one rat.
What is your husband's argument for feeding live?
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12-01-05, 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by jjpython
wow a whole pinkie rat you must really not like your snake, you think a pinkie rat every 5 days will satisfy your snake.....nope try moving up to 14-21 day old rats usually 30-60grams my new ball python is about 2 months and is eating f/t 60g rats every 6-8 days.
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Wonderful attitude. No, you are right, I hate my snakes, know nothing about raising them and have no way to estimate correct size and frequency of feeding. Oh please, enlighten me with some more of your wisdom Obi-wan.
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If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer.
Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away. - Thoreau
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12-01-05, 05:34 PM
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Join Date: May-2004
Location: montreal
Age: 39
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Originally Posted by Bluzmn59
Wonderful attitude. No, you are right, I hate my snakes, know nothing about raising them and have no way to estimate correct size and frequency of feeding. Oh please, enlighten me with some more of your wisdom Obi-wan.
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dude quit being stupid.....
so your trying to say that you feeding your ball python a pinkie rat is perfectly fine at four months of age trust me i have much experience with snakes, i own the large consrtictors , i own/owed a burms, retics, anacondas, bci, scrubs, and mostly all of them i got them when there we babies, so i know that feeding a pinkie rat to a ball python is just not enough food, i just tried to let you know that you should feed bigger prey. and the ball i own is not my first,
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12-01-05, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by jjpython
dude quit being stupid.....
so your trying to say that you feeding your ball python a pinkie rat is perfectly fine at four months of age trust me i have much experience with snakes, i own the large consrtictors , i own/owed a burms, retics, anacondas, bci, scrubs, and mostly all of them i got them when there we babies, so i know that feeding a pinkie rat to a ball python is just not enough food, i just tried to let you know that you should feed bigger prey. and the ball i own is not my first,
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Not really interested in your resume, dude, nor am I interested in your smart-a** attitude. But I am impressed with your ability to decide size of prey and feeding intervals for a snake you have never even seen, as well as telling me how much I "like" my animals. I will have to go tell my veterinarian wife how wrong we have been all these years.
Now, if only I could discuss that "stupid" comment in person with you...........
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If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer.
Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away. - Thoreau
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12-02-05, 07:09 AM
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Join Date: Jan-2005
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Originally Posted by jjpython
wow a whole pinkie rat you must really not like your snake, you think a pinkie rat every 5 days will satisfy your snake.....nope try moving up to 14-21 day old rats usually 30-60grams my new ball python is about 2 months and is eating f/t 60g rats every 6-8 days.
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There is nothing wrong with feeding conservatively. Different snakes mature differently depending on a lot of factors. Even two snakes from the same clutch can grow very differently, not to say that one is healthier then the other.
I have always fed on a more conservative side and have had healthy, well growing snakes.
I think the "you must really not like your snake" was wrong. There is nothing wrong with giving somebody your opinion and bringing up a concern, but this comment was too far out there. EVEN if he was doing something that could cause long term harm to his snake there is no reason to jump on him like this without first trying to get the specifics and trying to help him from there.
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11-30-05, 02:18 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2005
Location: GA
Age: 45
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Let me tell you, this snake has been a HUGE stress to me ever since we got him! I am SO attached to the darn little thing, I don't want anything to happen to him! We have only had him about a month, and he was in pretty bad shape when we first got him. But now I think he's going to be okay.
Nope, a soak wasn't cutting it! I soaked the heck outta him, and all he would pass was pee. The amount of (hard) poo that came out of the poor thing when the doc was working with him was amazing. It was literally a foot of poo, and the snake is only two feet long! The doc also said that the skulls of the mice are soemtimes hard to digest, and that I should probably stick with smaller sized mice for now, until he gets his "movements" back in order. I do feed live (my hubby and I argue about this one,) but he is placed in his special eating box and never left unattended with the mouse. So that's why I thought I might could feed the mice something to benefit the snake. There are only two pet stores in this area that sell feeder mice, and neither will pre-kill them or sell frozen. (My hubby insists on feeding live anyway! I almost had him convinced at one point, but he changed his mind when it was too hard to find them around here.  )
Anyway, thanks fot the well wishes! He moves around his cage much more now that he can actually move! Hahahaha!
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11-30-05, 02:27 PM
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http://www.rodentpro.com/index.asp
Not to be too harsh, but there is no good reason to feed live.
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If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer.
Let him step to the music he hears, however measured or far away. - Thoreau
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12-02-05, 09:26 AM
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Join Date: May-2004
Location: montreal
Age: 39
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i was just saying that a pinkie no matter what size ball python is to little. and yes saying that he really doenst like his snake was a little much and i appologize. but i just want to know why ppl keep feeding there ball pythons mice, and pinkie rat. everyone knows they can eat a adult mouse when the hatch so y not feed them the equvilent in rat form like fuzzy or hopper. thats all im trying to say. ive seen too many ball pythons eating like 4-5 adult mice when they wont take rats, skip mice all together and give them a rat to start off with, then you dont have to switch later on, savew the trouble.....
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