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Old 12-21-04, 09:46 AM   #1
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More than enough corns - and plenty of 'ugly amels' for Katt!!

A few more corn pics to share - these guys are common enough but I love the colors!!

Normal yearling female - one of my few brown-eyed corns



striped normal het snow (this guy gets paired up with a butter this spring - corn babies het for amel, anery, caramel and striped!!)



amel motley (supposed to be a sunglow but he has a few white scales) - also to be teamed with a butter female - amels het caramel and motley - fun stuff)





creamsicle male - will be paired with amel het anery female that follows to determine whether he is het anery -


amel female - pretty wide white borders but not a reverse okeetee - but she produced some really pretty babies this year!



and sneak in the hybrid here - an albino jungle corn (50/50 corn/cal king) - but such a sweet snake I just have to keep her.




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Very nice collection~~

That amel motley, I would say that she is classified as a sunglow motley. A bit of white...but still pretty close enough~

And the 'normal' you have there, I say that you might be even to say that its a banded corn too.
It has very wide and broad bandings~~
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Beutiful pics! I really like your normal, their so beutiful and natural looking.
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Beautiful Mary.

Question: what makes your female amel, not a reverse okee? Basically, what makes a reverse okee such. and not an amel.?
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Nice, really really nice!!

Those quadruple het and triple het corns sound really interesting!!
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Old 12-22-04, 09:46 AM   #6
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Thanks everyone - I absolutely love the variety that comes in cornsnakes - and the fact that an ordinary looking normal can be het for an amazing number of genes and you can get clutches with dozens of morphs is really appealing. I love it when the clutch hatches and it is such a suprise with every different nose that peeks out.

Christina - the definition of the morphs that are selectively bred - like sunglow, candycane and reverse okeetee is always so subjective. Anyone can call their snakes these morphs but I prefer to see close to ideal before I like to claim that it fits a morph. Even if the parents were ideal, it is so easy to lose these selectively bred characteristics in one generation.

For a reverse okeetee I want to see exactly what a great okeetee morph looks like with the black replaced by white. Like a great okeetee - very hard to come by. Very dark orange/red saddles, wide white borders and bright orange background color. This female has great wide white borders in her midsection but they are narrow at her upper body and neck. She has great saddle color, but her background color is washed out and very pale especially toward her tail.

This is a pic of her as a yearling to show the pattern. She is a lovely girl, if bred correctly could likely produce great reverse okeetees, but is not typical enough for me to want to represent her as one. As a hatchling, she apparently looked like a really good candy-cane, which I think is reflected in her pale background color now at maturity.



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I'd agree with Mary

I think that one looks more like an amel more than a reverse okeetee.

Or some people would classify that as a low end reverse okeetee.
I personally would call one a reverse okeetee if it has nice thick white boarders around the blotches especially near the neck area.

But either way I really like your corns Mary~
Keep it up!!
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