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Old 08-26-04, 08:24 AM   #1
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Need Big Help Please

I was told about this site by a friend.
I need some help here.
A friend of mine has passed on and left me an Emerald Boa.
He was a huge snake fan, and this was his pet.
I know nothing about taking care of it.
Can someone give me any tips.
I dont need web addresses because I have looked at a ton of material online and get the gist, but I need personal hints and tips about what to do with it.
It came in a big plexiglass 'tank' that was in his living room.
He feeds it rats.
It NEVER moves.(just sits on a branch), unless I take it out.
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Sheryl, first of all... what are your intentions? Are you just going to care for this snake until you find it a home, or will you keep it for yourself?

I am no snake expert, but I think Emeralds are high-maintenance pets, requiring a perfect climate... that means you need to check temperatures, humidity, etc. I would suggest you try to find a vet in your area that is experienced with reptiles, and maybe particularly snakes, to learn how to take care of it.

If you can't get a vet, call your local zoo... no doubt they will have useful information on this species for you. Sorry I wasn't much help, but I hope this gives you some ideas... And, sorry about your friend... =)
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I'm not an expert on tree boas. You should put this post in the "Corallus Family" forum where the tree boa experts will be sure to see it.

I do know these guys typically dont move much. Their heat and humidity have to be pretty well maintained, and they are not considered beginner species by any means. Good luck with it, and I hope you get the advice you're seeking.

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I have got alot of info today, thanks.

And those that have sent me messages, no I will not sell the snake, sorry.
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I have got alot of info today, thanks.

And those that have sent me messages, no I will not sell the snake, sorry.
I wouldn't sell it either. There are quite a few very knowledgeable people that work with Emeralds on Ssnakess. Good luck with the new snake, and sorry to hear about your friend.
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Meh, he was a tightrope walker. It was bound to happen.
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the reason it does not move is that it is nocturnal. if you looked at it at night you could probably see it moving around, or hanging in a hunting position. good luck the the emerald. they are truly one of the most beautiful snakes. big teeth too.
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Make sure it doesn't get hotter than 84 degrees. Do not feed it more than once every 3 weeks. Give it a second perch. When it sheds check for the eye caps and the tip of the tail. Do not handle it during a shed or the day of feeding and for 3 days after.
Mist it once only in the morning, never at night.
I've had one but now I keep ATB and GTP.
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Old 08-26-04, 07:40 PM   #9
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I always mist at night, never in the a.m. and my ETBs are doing great (knock on wood,of course). My rational is that here in Florida, as in the tropics when the air cools at night water precipitates out. On humid nights here in Florida it almost feels like a mist or even rain precipitating out on your skin. Nighttime is when ETBs are active and most likely to drink, so I want drops of water everywhere in the cage.
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I have just been taking him out and holding him under the luke warm shower once a day cause thats what my friend did.
It is a super friendly snake and never wants to go back in the tank, so I have just been chillin with it on the couch and acclimating it to me. It crawls up my shirt and stays there for warmth. I think i'm doing well.
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Also, how big can I expect this thing to get? It is like 5 feet or so now, will it get really big? Also, how do I know if its a boy or a girl?
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You risk lowering the temp too low at night by misting at night. ETBs will drink from a bowl both elevated and on the cage floor. Greg Maxwell author of the Complete Condro also talks about the importance of misting once in the morning and allowing the cage to dry out at night. He says it's more natural for them.
Here is what Stan Chiras has to say about ETBs,

Identification and Husbandry of Amazon Basin Emerald Tree Boas
by Stan Chiras

Published in "Reptiles" Magazine March 1998

It is a rare individual, snake lover or not, who isn't caught short of breath at the sight of a mature emerald tree boa coiled around a tropical limb. But few snakes are as misunderstood by reptile keepers and breeders alike. The common myth is that they are difficult to keep, of vile temperament, and next-to-impossible to successfully breed in captivity. These theories are quickly dispelled once a few basic husbandry conditions are understood and met.
What is an Amazon Basin Emerald?
There are two main types of Corallus canina: the Surinam (or Guyana Shield) and the Amazon Basin. The former is found exclusively in Northern South America and is separated geographically from the latter by a range of mountains. The aptly-nicknamed "Amazon Basin" emerald is found along much of the Amazon river basin, from southern Surinam, Southern Guyana, Southern Venezuela, to Colombia, Peru and Brazil into the surrounding lowland jungle of the expansive river. The two are as different from each other as night and day; and someday will likely be identified as distinct subspecies. The differences in morphology, scalation, coloration and temperament are striking. The species was discovered in 1754 by Linnaeus (Mus. ad. Frid. p. 39, pl. iii); although to this day few subspecific differences have been noted in scientific literature.
Briefly, these are the most obvious differences. The Surinam snake (which is the same as the Guyanan, or Venezuelan, or French Surinam - for their range overlaps across all of these countries) is generally more of a tall configured snake, with less tendency to develop the squarish body profile of the Amazon emerald.
The coloration of the Surinam is generally more lime green; whereas the Amazon tends to become more deep emerald green as it matures. Some specimens become so dark that they almost appear black, and a dark green Amazon is truly stunning, further enhanced by it's bright yellow and white markings. Why the Amazon is darker remains a mystery, but these are the great questions we are doomed to debate and hypothesize - not unlike the paleontologists wrestling over the dinosaurs' behavior from scant fossil evidence. The differences in coloration are probably anybody's guess, for generally nature endows animals from cooler regions with darker body colors (assumedly to absorb more solar radiation). In this case, popular theory would seem to be contradicted.
The white pattern on the Amazon is far whiter, and the yellow is usually more brilliant than the Suriman emerald. Where the Amazon's dorsal markings are normally connected (striped) and pure white, the Surinam's are more likely to be broken; and the white is laced with gray/blue hues. Interestingly, many Surinams possess a "sawtooth" white pattern which can be quite impressive. The yellow tends to be paler on the Surinam, whereas the Amazon is usually graced with vibrant yellow on the underside and labials, making the snake considerably more contrasty in appearance.
Scalation is somewhat different on the body, with varying counts, but the most noticeable difference, evident to even the untrained eye, is on the dorsal surface of the head. The Surinam is characterized with large plates, whereas the Amazon's head (specifically the snout region) is covered with small scales. Other notable differences are evident on the rostals and labials.
I'm currently in the process of having skeletons of both types cleaned, and anxiously await discovery of the possible differences in skull structure which seem to exist from viewing live specimens. Unfortunately, an emerald's skull is made up of muscle and tendon-joined bits and pieces, and it's difficult to recognize structural patterns where there is, in effect, little actual skull structure to work with. Initial differences in the lower mandible joint (it's a two piece jawbone) and actual jaw shape are noticeable to even my untrained eyes.
The last, and most enjoyable difference between the two snakes is that of temperament. The Surinam is somewhat irritable, especially when freshly imported, while the Amazon is typically tame and docile even when freshly captured. Once again, the reasons are anybody's guess. Captive-raised Surinams sometimes become tame as they mature, but more often than not they retain their rather infamous disposition, regardless of how much a loving keeper tries to alter their basic nature. Most of the emerald tree boa bites I have incurred over the years (which are not without considerable pain...) have come from encounters with Surinams. I have been keeping emeralds off and on since the early 1970's (when they could be bought for as little as $25.00!!!) and can count the bites from Amazons on one mildly scarred hand.
The Most Common Husbandry Problem
In a word: Regurgitation. The causes range from Crypto to environmental stress, but more often than not, if the animal is properly maintained, the problem will never rear its ugly head. Frequently an animal which has been maintained in one collection for years without a problem develops health complications with a subsequent keeper. Following these basic rules will usually assure a worry-free experience with emeralds.
Keeping Emeralds in Captivity
Regardless of which emerald you keep, the rules are basically the same. They are simple and rarely can they be violated without dire consequences - hence the ill-gotten reputation referred to earlier. Stick to the rules, and you'll have years of pleasurable experiences with your emeralds. Stray, and your snakes will almost undoubtedly pay the price.
I have recognized six basic rules to successfully maintain emeralds. While some keepers report varying degrees of success with slight variations in these basic concepts, few, if any succeed without following these Six Commandments religiously. Someone ought to scribe them in stone. Briefly, they are: (1) Don't keep them too warm (2) Maintain proper humidity cycles (3) Don't feed them too often (4) Feed proper sized meals (5) Allow for regular defecations (6) Exercise your snakes. These are all common-sense rules which apply to most captive herps in varying degrees. In the case of emeralds, the parameters are more strict but easily attainable.
Rule 1 Watch the Temperature!
Somehow keepers tend to think of South America as hot and muggy all the time, and for the most part they're right. Almost two decades ago I made my first trip to South America to see what it was really like, and have since made many repeat expeditions to the land that, if I wasn't so established here in the States, I would gladly call my home.
Emeralds are entirely arboreal, living from just above the forest floor to high in the canopy. The mistaken assumption has often been made that they feed primarily upon birds - because of their huge canine teeth and the basic arboreal nature of the beast. What has rarely been mentioned is that the rodents of the region are just as arboreal as emeralds, and it's common to see varying-sized rats in the treetops right next to the snakes.
Arboreal snakes are subject to more extremes in temperature and humidity than are terrestrial reptiles. The reason is clear: ground temperature is more constant, whereas air temperature varies both quicker and more dramatically.
I have recorded temperatures in the high 50's to the high 90's in the Amazon basin. I have also climbed to the top of the canopy and felt just how much cooler it can be high off the ground, with a gentle breeze flowing across one's sweaty brow. Consequently, an exothermic animal like an emerald lives in a less stable environment than say, a redtail, or a rainbow boa. While the latter can bask, raise its temperature to a suitable level, and retreat to a hollow log or leaf litter pile to retain its body heat, the emerald tree boa cannot. It is primarily at the mercy of the air temperature. Since reptiles are cold blooded and can't sweat off excessive body temperature (unlike tree-climbing herpers...) the air temperature is a determining factor to these snakes.
You've been told temperatures reach the high 90's in the emerald's habitat, so a similar temperature would be all right for a captive specimen, right? Not exactly. The temperature at the forest floor can get downright unbearable, especially in light of the high humidity which typically cycles from high, to higher, to amazingly high each day along the Amazon. But what is hot, or what feels hot to us mammals, isn't necessarily felt the same way by reptiles. What I learned during my many forays into the treetops is that it isn't nearly so unbearable up there. It doesn't feel that humid either, a function of the almost constant breeze. But what the snake feels is another matter altogether. It is fairly evident that emeralds are able to avoid excessive heat by remaining in the shade during the middle part of the day. And the temperature in the shade is far lower than in the sun, as we all know. At night, when the ground retains a considerable portion of it's daytime heat, and when crepuscular herps are active and warm, emeralds typically cool off even more. By the time the cold snake's body begins to warm up in the morning and into the afternoon, it probably only reaches temperatures near the ambient air, but not equal to it. The cycle repeats itself at sunset and the emerald tree boa lives as it always has, in an environment cooler than one might think.
It was after many trips to South America and more than a few unfortunate experiences with captive emeralds that this lower temperature regime became apparent to me. As mentioned, the most common emerald malady is the regurgitation syndrome. While everything in this article can, and does, relate to eliminating the problem, temperature is one of the more critical factors in avoiding emerald regurgitations.
The optimum temperature range for emeralds spans from night time lows (NTL) of approximately 75 degrees to daytime highs (DTH) of 82 degrees Fahrenheit. During the breeding season it is safe to drop temperatures into the low sixties, and interestingly many of my adult females and subadult animals continue to feed during these lower NTL's with virtually no difficulty in digestion or health. Conversely, higher temperatures, such as 88-92, which some emerald keepers report as within normal parameters, frequently result in regurgitations. One would suspect that emeralds have relatively slow metabolisms and that at higher temperatures food items tend to putrefy and decay at a rate which exceeds the animals' natural digestion capability. Hence, excessive gasses are produced and the snake expels the food item. I have frequently taken an animal with a history of regurgitation (which have usually been tested first for crypto, etc.) and turned it around by keeping it at slightly lower temperatures. The process of recovery may take more than a year, but patience is a must to successfully help the animal re-establish healthy gastrointestinal functions.
A successful temperature cycle would be to have a cage or room reach a NTL of 75. Spraying cages, turning on lights, and raising the temperature setting should bring about a DTH of around 82-84 by late afternoon, at which time the lights should go off. Emeralds live in an almost perfect 12/12 day/night photoperiod throughout the year - so 6 a.m. to 6 p.m. is an ideal day-night cycle. The cage should begin to cool when the lights go off, and the humidity should also begin to drop, creating (simulating) a cooler and less humid night period. Anywhere from 65% R.H. at night is good, while 80% R.H. or more during the day is adequate. Some of my cages, made by Vision Herpetological, oftentimes reach humidity levels near 100% by late afternoon. Quality waterproof cages are a must when striving to reach these high humidity levels. Adequate humidity oftentimes rots wooden cages, no matter how much sealant you use.
Stick to these parameters and the matter of health and regurgitation will be minimized, when managed in conjunction with the additional maintenance rules.
Rule 2 Maintain Adequate Humidity and Airflow
We touched on humidity in relation to temperature, since they are related. The higher the temperature, the more humidity the air is capable of holding. When air cools, the less likely it is to hold high levels of moisture. The point at which water comes out of the air is called the dewpoint, but since we're not trying to make it rain by controlling the dewpoint, it's senseless to attempt to get moisture from the air by manipulating moisture levels in relation to temperature. Just remember that it's natural for warmer air to hold more humidity.
Except for the breeding season, at which time my emerald cages get misted sometimes for hours on end, and at a time when the Amazon river literally floods from months of rain, emeralds do well if subjected to daily humidity cycles of hot, humid days and cool, less humid nights. Notice I did not say dry nights, for it is never dry where emeralds come from. Nature took millions of years to evolve this animal to successfully flourish in a humid environment, and changing conditions to dry is an invitation for stress-related respiratory disorders and general discomfort for the snake.
There are different kinds to humidity. The worst is stagnant, and the best is moving, naturally-produced humidity. Simply spraying an animal and its cage will work, but it is far better to install a room-temperature, fresh water (minus chlorine, florine and chloramids) misting/rain system for your emerald. I'm currently setting up a rain system in an emerald room which also has a misting mode so I can go from heavy droplets to a gentle, foglike mist and provide the animals varying degrees of humidity and water-related "weather" occurrences. Opening the windows during a thunderstorm is a neat idea, too, with all the ionized air molecules stimulating the snakes, plants and even their keeper into a highly-charged state. When it rains around this household a frantic scene emerges. Our dog, who normally fears nothing, hides at the sound of lightning. Our outside guard animals, pairs of swans and geese, begin celebrating by flapping and splashing all over the place. And the reptile keeper (yours truly) runs from room to room, and even cage to cage, opening doors and windows to let the storm in. The bigger the storm the more our animals, except the dog, like it.
As mentioned earlier, spraying emeralds in the morning is best. With the increase in day temperatures, the humidity will rise naturally as the day progresses (Remember: warmer air will hold more humidity). With the discontinuation of lights and temperature at nightfall, the humidity will naturally diminish and provide the animals with a less humid evening/nighttime period.
Humidity can be augmented in several ways. One method is to use a large water pan, to provide a significant surface area for evaporation into the cage. Another is by using bedding that holds moisture well, and which effectively increases the surface area to provide additional evaporation. The last is to fill the cage with live plants, such as cage-hardy pothos or ficus. Plants represent a source of transpiration and oxygen production to make the cage more natural feeling to the animals. The result is a cage which smells, feels, and even looks very similar to the jungle from which emeralds originate.
A critical factor is that of air movement. Stagnant air isn't good, for it can propagate fungal and bacterial growth which could be detrimental to your snake's health. It is necessary to provide a mechanism for the air to move, which also promotes fluctuations in day and night humidity levels. This can be accomplished easily, providing your snake room isn't overly-humid to begin with. For those living in dry climates like me (Colorado), that's not a problem. For those living in humid climates like Houston, or Atlanta, or Miami, it is a little more of a job. The important factor is to provide ventilation and airflow. In most cases, the more cage ventilation available, the less need you'll have for airflow.
My cages have 1/4" screen mesh covering the entire top, along with vented sides, or screened fronts with vented tops, to provide natural airflow. In addition, a ceiling fan operates to keep the air in slow and gentle motion. Since the entire room is dedicated to emeralds, and all the cages are humid, this ventilation does not dry the cages excessively. You must be the judge of your cage/room design to determine whether it needs more-or-less ventilation OR more-or-less airflow. Ventilation is accomplished by venting the cage. Airflow represents the movement of air around and in the cages.
When I stick my head inside an emerald's cage, while watching out for a feeding reaction and a possible painful bite (which is rare during daylight hours, since they're very sedentary during the day) the cage must smell alive with plants and wet bedding, and it must be very humid. Otherwise the snake most likely isn't comfortable. Watching an emerald's body language is very important. Look for tight, orderly coils which represent a comfortable snake. Conversely, loose coils are the first sign of discomfort.
Rule 3 Don't Feed Emeralds Too Often,
Burmese Pythons they are NOT!
My favorite quip for emerald keepers, in regard to feeding, is that "They aren't Burmese pythons!" I've raised Burms before and have seen them grow almost geometrically in relation to their food intake. Likewise with corn snakes, tri colors, and even red tail boas. But NOT! when it comes to emeralds. While the occasional emerald might take frequent meals successfully, most will eventually become stressed and begin regurgitating if fed too often. Even captive-born and raised babies, which oftentimes feed and grow like gangbusters, usually reach of point of "no mas" and will regurg when their systems have had enough. Then you're in for problems, as consequent meals will often come up and the keeper immediately thinks the snake is sick. Actually it is: sick of taxing its digestive system at a rate exceeding what Mother Nature and Evolution had in mind a million years ago. So the first thing to realize (and imprint in your mind) is that if you're the kind who loves to feed herps - to watch them feed and grow rapidly, then emeralds ain't your kind of snake.
A good routine is to feed young, growing snakes every ten to fourteen days. Feed sub adults about the same, although some seem anxious to feed and can be fed more on the eight-to-ten day schedule if they defecate regularly, exercise, and aren't fed too much at a time. More on that later.
Adult emeralds are another matter. Feed them too often and eventually you'll regret it. Once regurgitation sets in, it's a slow and difficult syndrome to overcome. A general rule is to feed adult females every two weeks, and males every three to four weeks. Believe me, they won't pine away if they're not fed more frequently and most importantly, they'll probably never regurgitate or suffer any health problems, as long as the other guidelines are followed. There really is no other way to say it other than adult emeralds don't need much food to remain healthy. Females don't have to be real heavy to breed, and young snakes grow slowly and should be fed accordingly. Forgetting to feed them is more of a blessing in disguise. I oftentimes let mine go without food for a month or more; and it seems to do them nothing but good!
Rule 4 Don't Feed Large Prey
By this I mean don't feed mice or rats with a mid-body diameter larger than that of the emerald's stomach region. I have 7 1/2' emeralds which are fed one medium-sized rat every two or three weeks, and two of them are currently gravid and doing just fine. My favorite emerald meal is one that makes a barely noticeable lump - or NO lump at all - in the snake after feeding. And this does not mean one should feed a bunch of small mice or rats to make up the difference, either. A three foot emerald will grow fine on one adult mouse every two weeks. A five foot snake will do well on a small-to-medium (75 g.) rat, and a seven footer thrives perfectly on one medium (175 g.) rat every few weeks. Never feed large emeralds jumbo rats. It's a great way to ruin a perfectly good snake, which isn't about to grow another inch in the next ten years anyway!
If you mess up and can't resist the temptation, you may be confronted with a bloated emerald one to three days after feeding. Usually this results in a regurgitation. It sometimes can be avoided if caught early, by lowering the snake's cage temp to the low seventies until the lump disappears. But if it doesn't work, and the snake regurgs, a little patience and common sense will go a long way toward recovery.
It's best to wait at least ten days after a regurgitation before offering more food, even if the snake is hanging in the "S" shaped striking coil every night, hunting for a meal. Let the stomach settle down and then offer it a small meal - a very small meal. Then wait ten to fourteen days and offer it another small meal. Wait ten more days and feed again, sticking to small rodents all the time. In almost all cases it's best to maintain this regime for six months or longer before cautiously upping the prey size. Rushing matters could easily result in further stress to the gastrointestinal tract, which could eventually become too dysfunctional for the snake to survive. Patience is the key, and if carried out fully this method (knock on wood...) has yet to fail me. I have one emerald here that was given to me, a four foot male on death's door at the hands of an over-zealous keeper, representing nothing but a mass of regurgitating skin and bones. He's been here almost a year now, and except for one initial regurgitation he's been holding meals down, is gaining weight, and generally acts very healthy with bright, clear eyes and a constant willingness to feed. I figure he's still more than a year away from good health, but he represents a labor of love that will be extremely rewarding when he's 100%.
They key is to understand the nature of the problem and act appropriately, before it's too late. You cannot force recovery on an emerald. It takes time, and lots of it. My favorite line is to look at a feed card, notice that it's been oh, say 17 days since the emerald's last meal, and say "I'll feed you next week!" Let me make it painfully clear: If you're the type who anxiously awaits the next scheduled feeding with great anticipation, then emeralds are not the snake for you. There's so much to enjoy about keeping emeralds that frequent feedings should become a secondary activity.
Rule 5 Three Meals, Defecate. Three Meals, Defecate...
The subtitle should be self-explanatory. Anyone who has kept emeralds knows they don't "go" that often, making cage cleaning - or the lack of it - a joy on most days. With somewhere around 35 adult, juvenile, and subadult emeralds here at most times, oftentimes there isn't a single cage to clean on a given day. That's truly a keepers delight!
There are three keys to regular defecation in emeralds: exercise, moisture, and not overfeeding. Exercise is the topic of rule six, but suffice it to say that exercise assists all animals in making regular, healthy bowel movements. Whether it's your dog or yourself, exercising helps keep bowel contents in motion and seems to assist in waste evacuation.
It's just as important to monitor defecation in emeralds as it is to keep track of feeding dates. If you aren't inclined to keep track of waste production, it's fairly easy to observe the animal's general body weight. If it gets excessively bulky - especially near the cloaca - the chances are it's retaining fecal mass and would benefit from a bowel movement. Most times, if emeralds are active enough, they defecate regularly on their own, which seems to occur after every third regular-sized meal. If not, increase cage size, increase misting, or decrease feeding. Of course, if you're feeding very small sized meals the animal might likewise defecate less often.
Emeralds can, and sometimes do regurgitate if they haven't defecated recently. It might sound strange, but it would seem that if their intestine is packed from end to end that the stomach is less capable of holding a meal. Like I said, it sounds strange but I have seen emeralds regurg, soaked them in water to induce a BM, and had them hold subsequent meals down with no apparent difficulty. Whatever ...
That brings up the topic of soaking. If you have to soak an emerald every time to induce the normal bowel function, something isn't right. I soaked two animals in the last year, indicating that, for the most part, my animals are doing just fine. Neither of the soakers were repeats, so they passed their feces and resumed subsequent normal function. If the need arises, soak an emerald in water a few degrees warmer than ambient temperatures, and keep an eye on it while soaking so as not to have the poor snake lying in it's own waste any longer than necessary. Rinse the snake and you're done. It only takes an inch or so of water to elicit the desired behavior, so there's no need to make a soaking chamber any more stressful than necessary.
Emeralds usually defecate in the early evening, oftentimes just after a misting. If you have an animal which is overdue, a full cage misting will often induce vigorous activity, which might result in defecation. Regardless of how it's accomplished, don't feed an emerald more than three meals in succession without making sure it defecates. If it doesn't, make adjustments to it's living conditions so that it does.
Rule 6 Coils of Steel! Exercise!
Increasingly, herpetoculturists are subscribing to the holistic school of animal husbandry, where large display cages with natural decorations are utilized. Animals enjoy a more complex existence if their cages are large and roomy, and full of interesting objects like rocks, limbs, plants and natural bedding material. For those who believe snakes are too dull and unexciting to enjoy these distractions, why don't you just ask your snakes? Let me illustrate.
I recently picked up a very nice male diamond python from a keeper who kept him in a glorified box, complete with a plastic hide chamber, a water bowl, and a newspaper substrate. Pretty boring, to both the snake and the keeper - if you ask me. I told him that diamonds are quite arboreal if given the opportunity (as are their close relatives jungle carpets) and he indicated he wasn't aware of that behavior. They breed either way, so why bother?
He was selling the animal because it wouldn't breed. I credit him for being honest enough to inform me of the situation, but I was intent to bring the beast out of the animal. I set him up in a cage like all my diamonds. It was a roomy four feet long, 34 inches tall, and 32 inches deep (He was a small animal). He had two limbs to perch on, a large rock in one corner, a small log in another, and a cork bark hiding place. A small ficus tree graced the middle of the cage, and a shelf with a screened outside window was included so the snake could bask in real, honest-to-goodness morning sun. It was like the difference between Motel 6 and the Sheraton. He bred several times this winter and is soon to be the father of his first clutch of diamond python eggs.

Likewise, my emeralds are maintained in cages just as large, with at least two or three live plants per cage, a branch-level watering cup (because they will drink from it), VitalitesR, several sized branches from which to choose (and they almost always choose the highest and smallest), sufficient room to move, and enough plants to hide within that I sometimes wonder where they've all gone. But every night, just after dark, their heads begin popping down, as they begin their almost ritualistic waiting game, poised, anticipating a mouse or rat to appear for a quick strike and a tasty meal. It is then you'll enjoy your emeralds the most, under red night lights, as they hunt.
Not all emeralds will use the space available to them, but most of them are seen cruising around their cages periodically, and they frequently change resting limbs for no apparent reason. Even gravid females, which seem somewhat uncomfortable as they swell, move about quite a bit. It probably helps gestation to provide the female room for activity.
In contrast is the emerald which is raised in a relatively small enclosure, with one limb and nothing to stimulate it's instinct to roam and to hunt. I sometimes allow my snakes to travel to other cages, by utilizing trap doors between them. It's interesting to see that sometimes they'll trade cages and seem more content in another snake's cage than their own. One might speculate the "grass is greener" isn't a saying true only for horses...
Exercise is good for an animal's defecation function, as formerly discussed. It is also good for muscle tone and conditioning. It aids an animal's general well being in ways we can only speculate, but one thing is for sure: They do better, not worse, in large, interesting cages.
Summary:
When an animal is maintained more than "just adequately" the problems most often associated with husbandry are frequently minimized. I get many calls each month from emerald keepers, almost always related to not feeding or to regurgitations. That's what prompted me to write this article, in hopes of helping current emerald keepers, as well as prospective aficionados of these wonderful snakes to keep them successfully. The rules described here are merciless. Violate them and your emerald will most likely suffer. While the occasional keeper reports success with slight variations in these procedures, they are the exception, and not the rule.
Remember: Nature designed this art deco animal more than a million years ago - far longer than we have been keeping them in captivity. It comes from a warm and fairly stable environment, where the relative humidity ranges from high to higher. The days are always twelve hours long, and the nights are likewise twelve hours in duration. It primarily preys upon arboreal rodents, and it probably doesn't eat very often, since it is an opportunistic feeder. An emerald tree boa's idea of hunting is to hang down a foot or so from it's resting position and wait for something to come along (reminds one of the vulture poster which says: "Patience my butt, I'm gonna kill something!"). The emerald tree boa is definitely NOT an aggressive seek and kill animal, like a bullsnake wiping out nest after nest of rats in the local barnyard.
Nature evolved the emerald tree boa to knock the emotional socks off guys like me, I'm sure of it. Ever since I first saw a photo of one in "Living Reptiles of the World" (Schmidt & Inger, circa 1955) it has been my passion to be near these beautiful snakes. To do so we owe them our best attempts at proper husbandry. The Amazon Basin Corallus canina is an amazing snake, strangely blessed with a timid and docile nature, an obvious choice for many reptile keepers. Treat them well and they'll outlive many herps in your collection, and give you immeasurable hours of satisfaction along the way.
SIDE-BAR
Last year a freak incident occurred at our facility. The pictured Surinam female, purchased gravid from the wild, gave birth to eleven (11) atypical offspring. It is believed she must have bred with a Cook's tree boa, perhaps in the South American compound, or that possibly this is the result of a wild integration of the species.
The entire birth sequence was witnessed and photographed, and some of the photos are shown here to record this unique event.
Eight months later the young are growing and exhibiting extreme variance from each other - ranging from gray and lavender, to red and yellow, to orange spotted, to yellow spotted. As they grow they continually get more attractive and breeding the sibs together will result in who-knows-what? While the author isn't the least interested in hybridizing, this mysterious event of unknown origin demands further attention. The likelihood that this breeding occurred in the wild is very high, since the animals aren't held that long after capture before shipping. Emeralds, with a gestation of approximately seven (7) months, would unlikely be kept anywhere near that amount of time in Surinam. The birth occurred about a month after purchase, so these unusual neonates might represent a natural hybrid. We're still waiting for DNA results to possibly identify the sire's species.
Kamuran Tepedelen, of Bushmaster Reptiles, had a similar single neonate born with a litter of normal Surinam emeralds in 1996, also from a wild caught female. It bears a remarkable resemblance to these babies and further poses the question of hybridization in the wild. Perhaps not all Cook's or garden tree boas are what we think they are...
Hope this helps,
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You're probably going to have to get it probed to know of what sex it is. Have that done by a vet. If it is a male, it will most likely be 5-6 feet and a female would go 6-7 feet at max. If i were you, i wouldn't touch the snake for the first two weeks after you just received it... They stress out very easily, especially when they have been moved around and/or handled. Even if it is very tame ( then you might not think manipulation is stressful ), it will get somehow stressed and you don't want that. As i proposed, stop manipulating it until it has eaten 2 or 3 times, that would be a good sign that he is pretty confortable and ready to deal with other things than just survival!!! Don't ever feel to confident with it because Emerald Tree Boas, even tame ones, can punch dozens of 1 inch deep holes into your flesh in a single bite... That would require minor surgery and make you bleed alot more than you would think!!! Emeralds are not really a snake with which you might want to ''chill out'', they are mostly decorative and fragile animals... truly amazing animals too! Good luck with it. I hope it ends up eating well, cause if it does, then it's a sign that it's healthy!!! Sorry about your friend, but best chance to you and your emerald!

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Meh, he was a tightrope walker. It was bound to happen.
Don't know why but that really made me laugh...
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K, the newest development:
I guess he was hungry, cause I took one of the rats out of the freezer (that was also left to me), defrosted it and fed it to the snake. My late friend also gave me a floor lamp that the snake would wrap around, so the snake was there this morning and I dangled the rat in front of it and he/she took itno problems.
I think the snake likes the light because it get warm.
Also, I couldn't get it off the lamp after he ate, so I just left him there while I went to work. (My friend used to do that too)
I have been reasing alot of horror stories about these snakes being aggressive, but this one took the rat out of my hand as gentle as a dog. I'm starting to like it.
Any suggestions for names? I'll need something androgenous, because I dont know if it is male or female.
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