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05-24-04, 10:26 AM
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Pine bedding- yay or nay?
I bought a butt load of pine bedding for a non herp I'm housing. I have so much of it I was curious if it would be okay to use it with my snakes as well.
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05-24-04, 10:52 AM
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Nay, it contains toxins which are harmful to your reptiles.
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05-24-04, 10:54 AM
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thank you. i didn't think it was appropriate, which is why i asked. i've always used either newspaper or reptibark style substrate.
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05-24-04, 10:58 AM
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Good choice, it is better to be safe then sorry right? 
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05-24-04, 10:59 AM
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Yay for your feeders (not breeders) and nay for the snakes.
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05-24-04, 01:38 PM
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This is one of those trendy opinions (sorry guys) that is about 50% valid. It's not worth the risk with pine. Non-aromatic pine is fine to use. Many breeders use it in fact. I know of 4 in Calgary alone who do use it and have never made a snake ill - but like I said, it must be completely non-aromatic. The wood aroma is caused by Phenol resins that exist in softwoods - this resin can kill a herp very quickly. So, as I said, while the non-aromatic stuff *can* be used, why risk it?
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05-24-04, 03:12 PM
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Quote:
Originally posted by mykee
Yay for your feeders (not breeders) and nay for the snakes.
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it's for a hedgehog. it's an okay substrate. i'll probably switch to something else once a run out, which won't be for a while!
it's kind of cute though, the pine sticks to him like velcro when i pick him up with a towel. it falls right off though. it makes for very easy cage maintenance!
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05-24-04, 03:15 PM
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Why is it a bad idea with breeders?
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05-24-04, 08:13 PM
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Super Genius
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Breeders would remain on the pine for a long time, whereas the feeders would not. Prolonged use of pine as bedding for rats will produce scabs, and hair loss in rats. Been there, done that. I use aspen now.
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05-25-04, 10:07 PM
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Thats funny .... I have kept my breeder rats and mice on pine bedding for 17-18 years now with out a single problem sounds to me like you may have some other issues
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05-25-04, 10:07 PM
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Thats funny .... I have kept my breeder rats and mice on pine bedding for 17-18 years now with out a single problem sounds to me like you may have some other issues
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05-25-04, 10:12 PM
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Thats funny .... I have kept my breeder rats and mice on pine bedding for 17-18 years now with out a single problem sounds to me like you may have some other issues
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05-25-04, 10:30 PM
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Three times? I have no other problems with my rats other than they began to have much smaller litters, way too many stillborns and the problems I mentioned above. Congratulations on your success with pine though. Congratulations on your success with pine though. Congratulations on your success with pine though. I have since moved on to aspen and ALL of those problems dissapppeared. Musta been the water.......
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