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Old 01-21-04, 03:53 PM   #1
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southern hognose or western hognose?

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i was curious what the some of the differences are between keeping the western and southern hognose snake i would like to get one maybe at the show on the 20th but am not sure if a 10 gal is big enough. I read on a caresheet it is ok but u know the what some sites are like.Which is smaller and what are there caging requirments like. If anyone knows some good caresheets or some good books that would be good going to petstore in couple hours so if anyone knows some book names the sooner the better thx all
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Old 01-21-04, 04:05 PM   #2
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Check out hognose.com , its a great information site for hognose snakes.
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Old 01-21-04, 04:20 PM   #3
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thx so much
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after checking out the caresheet i have two questions one it never metioned what size of tank is required for the western hognose snake. also i noticed there are three different subspeices of western hognose can they all eat mice or just one kind. thx
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all westerns can eat mice.

a baby hog could live in a ten gallon for most of its life, remember, males only get two feet MAX
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great, now I want a hognose! sounds like the perfect snake for me....lol
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Old 01-21-04, 07:55 PM   #7
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when u say most of its life does that mean i should switch it when it gets older later on? i have a 20 gal will that be enough. Does anyone know if anyone will be selling them at the show on the 20th and how much a normal phase go for. thx ya hognose sounds like the perfect snake for me to at the moment running out of room in bedroom, my mom says there not taking over the living room. lol
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oh ya can u keep too togther my brother wants to get one i also have a 10 gal so i guess we could keep one in the 10 and one in the 20 unless its ok to keep too togther than they could both live in the 20
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A large female may need a 20 gallon tank but over all most hogs can live in a 10 or 15 gallon encloser for their whole life.

Each animal should be kept in its own enclosure unless they are a breeding pair. You could always put one in the 20 gallon and one in the ten galllon.

At the Missisauga show they usually go for $80-$125.

Good luck with your hognose(s).
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woohoo thx well i guess i'll be geeting two hognoses at the show one for my little bro whos obbsesed with snakes and one for me. oh ya what substraste do u think is better for borrowing( they do like to dig right? thats what i read) sand or the dirt expandable stuff.
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NEVER SAND! Lol. Potting soil, mulch, shredded bark or something like that. Even aspen shavings but not cedar.
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Old 01-21-04, 10:26 PM   #12
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ok kool lol omg i'm sorry i have one more question do they like to climb as well if so how stroing are they for pushing cage lids of mine is pretty strong with no cracks. um oh ya and humidity is fine at about 20$-40% rock on thx oh ya anyone know if theres any books out there any in piticular that u find good for info or sites.
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no, they arent climbers, give them about an inch or two of substrate, theyre burrower.

hognose.com has a great site, full of great info and sheets
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Westerns are much easier to find and keep anyway (as opposed to southerns). You should find lots of westerns up there, but I'm not sure of anyone working with simus in Canada. They'd probably be expensive. Go with the westerns if hognose is what you want. Read all you can on them. They do posess a mild venom that can be a problem for some individuals. Keep that in mind too.
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Old 01-22-04, 03:43 PM   #15
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ya i read about that but it was really strong opinions some would say no venom because there no venom sacks or and others would say yes. If its just mild i'm hoping its not enough to make u seriosly sick. I'm hoping to pick up at least one at the show maybe i'll get two depends on my mom.
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