am i doing it wrong?

[marylyn101]

It seems to take an awfulling long time for the mice to die in my gas chamber. i use a shoe box like plastic container, thats where the mice go, a tube is attatched to that witch is connected to a margerine container witch holds the baking soda. a second much smaller shortening container holds the vinegar with a stick to allow flow and stop flow in the middle of it. i use 2 cups of vinager and 3 table spoons of baking soda. but i add more because THEY DON"T DIE!!! the last batch was a buntch of fuzzies and they ended up in there for 3 hours with me adding more and more. i had to kill them manually. (i hate this ) when i check i don't open it i look at the side and see them gasp their little mouths. OOHHH to keep snakes.

[Derrick]

k I havent done this yet but I'm thinking you might need a very small vent in shoe box. to allow the CO2 to fill the shoe box you need some way for the air to escape??? just my guess. CO2 is heavier than O2so it should push it out you also might want to try a smalle killbox

[unknownclown]

Ive heard that its pretty common for pinkies to take forever in the gas chamber. I personally havent tried it so I dont know but Ive heard alot of people talk about it.

Just a thought.

[Mystic__69]

I personally never had to kill the pinkies, but I found that putting adult mice in a air locked jar in the freezer for about half an hour to an hour works good to kill them. Should give it a try for the pinkies

[marylyn101]

ok..... that doens't really answer me. and freezing is not a best way to do it. there blood freezez inside them.

[HetForHuman]

Originally posted by marylyn101
ok..... that doens't really answer me. and freezing is not a best way to do it. there blood freezez inside them.

Well after they are out of the gas chamber dont you freeze them anyway?

nothing wrong with freezing them, you just unthaw them as needed right?

[mark129er]

Instead of the baking soda and vinegar try dry ice, it is compressed liquid carbon dioxide. When added to warm water it sublimates very quickly creating gaseous CO2. If it is available it works very nicely, very humane. Try and find a Praxair, BOC or some other vendor in your area. www.praxair.com. Well as humane as killing can be anyway.

[Jayson]

Mystic

Dont you think taking a half hour to an hour to freeze to death and sufficate at the same time seem a little cruel??

[jaybox_reptiles]

thump it in the head it will never no what hit hahahahahaha

[JasonBrennan]

I personally never had to kill the pinkies, but I found that putting adult mice in a air locked jar in the freezer for about half an hour to an hour works good to kill them. Should give it a try for the pinkies

Are you serious? This is just outright cruel!! There is no reason to torture an animal like that, even if it is "just food". If you can't find a better way of doing it, just buy frozen....some people

[Oliverian]

Well after they are out of the gas chamber dont you freeze them anyway? nothing wrong with freezing them, you just unthaw them as needed right?

Well, yes, but it's very painful to the rodent to freeze to death. The blood crystalizes in the vessels and things rupture, ect. Not a fun way to die.

I'm not sure marylyn, but I would suggest a very small container so it fills faster. I don't know if airholes would help, but someone else probably does.
-TammyR

[BigPlaya]

Well I just want to add one thing about the freezing issue. I have always thought that when you put them in the freezer, they just fall asleep and they dont feel a thing. You know, like when a human goes in there sleep they say that they died peacefully. Just a thought.

[jadegrasse]

Here we go again. The food industry must follow Canadian guidelines on how to kill animals for consumption. They use mass head trauma devices like bolt guns or recommend cervical separation (break their necks). If an abattoir tried to use C02 or freezing then cruelty charges would be laid and people would probably go to jail.
We breed about 1000 rodents a month and we use cervical separation for the larger rodents and head trauma for the smaller ones. All die with a 30 seconds which is faster then gas or freezing. IMHO, if you can’t stomach killing the rodents humanely then let the snakes do it or purchase them frozen.

All baby rodents have a gasp reflex that allows them to conserve life long after the larger ones would have died. They can gasp fresh air 30 min after being drowned or gassed and come back life.

[daver676]

Originally posted by Mystic__69
I personally never had to kill the pinkies, but I found that putting adult mice in a air locked jar in the freezer for about half an hour to an hour works good to kill them. Should give it a try for the pinkies

Stop being such a wuss and just whack them. What your doing is about the cruelest thing you can do to kill a rodent. "Put them in a sealed jar and put them on the freezer"......Jezz! You sicken me.

[marylyn101]

i gas the pinkes because there skin tears. and that is much worse