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10-03-03, 05:48 PM
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wanting ot gaping mouth..
my veiled was gaping his mouth. but he was under the basking light.. no colors.. aslo evertiem i come around he get out of what ever he is doing and wants to coem out.
thanks for your help
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10-03-03, 05:57 PM
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i am a little bit confused ... are you asking a question? lol
kinda seems that way than not -lol
its great to hear that your veiled wants to come out! i can only get my dwarfs out without a fuss -  lol
keep of the great work!
JAson
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10-03-03, 06:12 PM
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well he like claws that he wants out.. yea im asking. and gaping mouth with no colors in teh basking spot. thanks. yea its cool he wants to come out but i feel bad. he is in a 85 galloner and still sub adult!!
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10-03-03, 06:24 PM
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hmmm ... i am by far not an expert but the basking is normal! when you say no colours you mean that he is dark in colour? if so, it prollly means the spot is not warm enough, and he is dark to absorb more heat. The clawing to come out .. i only have heard of trace's chams doing this, but i guess it wouldnt hurt to take him out ... especially with a veiled, you may want to handle him more often than not ...
good luck
Jason
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10-03-03, 06:26 PM
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yea like 3 times a day i have to. no hes nto dark tahts what i dotn get. and if u was too hot why in teh baskign spot? hmm crack head chameleon
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10-03-03, 06:27 PM
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well .. if he is bright in colour than thats normal .. he is just basking like any good cham
also, you dont HAVE to take him out if he scratches - lol
Jason
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10-03-03, 06:34 PM
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If he's got his mouth open... it generally means two things. Either he's too hot, or he's got a URI. Do you have your Veiled in a tank?
Trace
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10-03-03, 06:46 PM
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yea its glass. URI? doesnt soudn good
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10-03-03, 06:47 PM
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upper respitory tract infection. hope not. i have a fan blowign over the corner.
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10-03-03, 06:49 PM
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zing .. i though you meant reptarium chm ... sorry
uhh .. i suggest a glass tank ASAP ... glass is ok for neonates, but sub adult veiled and most other chams really should be in a screen enclosure ...
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10-03-03, 06:55 PM
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Firstly... what is the temperature in the basking spot? Any idea?
Secondly... chameleons should NOT be kept in a tank. Aquariums heat up very quickly and do not provide a proper thermal gradient. Also because of the lack of airflow in a tank, it can lead to mold, fungal and bacterial growths which then the chameleon breathes in.
Please! Click here for a good caresheet on Veiled Chameleons.
Trace
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10-03-03, 07:10 PM
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yea i know i decided to keep him in a tank because i live in a very cold adn dry part of the world. i knew i should of went with mesh but teh guy at teh pet store who breeds them said to get a glass. the temperature gradeant is good. 22-23 C at the bottom corner. and about 30 some in the baskign spot. cant tell u exactly right now teh thermometer fell of a week ago. i do have a small comp fan running over the top corner of it.
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10-03-03, 07:20 PM
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i know now after experience veileds can handle more then i thought. dry and cooler. but i jsut wanted to keep teh baby safe. grrr. im mad that thing and lights cost me 400 bucks..
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10-03-03, 07:31 PM
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LOL! Don't get upset! I, and some of the other chameleon-gurus are here to help. I can also say that the set-ups for my animals certainly cost me more than the actual animals themselves.
I live in Canada and therefore it's cold 364 days a year! So I do have the same problem as you, but I keep all of my chameleons in screened enclosures. They just seem to do better in them. I do suggest you look into buying or making an enclosure with at least 2 sides being screen.
"30 some" is a little high for a basking spot temperature I think. The optimal temperature there should be 80-90F (26.2-32.2C). Beyond the fact that he may be overheating, you run the risk of thermal burns as well. Maybe you can raise his basking light a bit from the top of the tank?
Signs of a URI in a chameleon would be clicking sounds, heavy breathing, mucous in his mouth and around his nostrils. Does your guy have that? I'm assuming, and I could be wrong, he's just overheated. The gaping and his lighter colours signal to me that he's too hot.
I haven't really addressed the issue of him wanting to come out. I figure if does want that, then take him out. Some of my male Veiled's LOVE the attention and some are just idiots and would rather be left alone. So if your guy doesn't seem stressed by handling, then take him out once a day for some exercise.
Cheers!
Trace
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10-03-03, 07:43 PM
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cold 364 trace? no kidding .. especially the winters
i find the nights harderest to keep warm, but i guess my dad has the heater on
and cham .. you really are lucky to have a cham who likes to come out .. many people wish to be as lucky as you
Jason
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