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Old 09-09-03, 06:08 PM   #1
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found on the property today

Found this guy today on alittle walk around the property

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Old 09-09-03, 07:14 PM   #2
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Is that a garter of some kind?
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Old 09-09-03, 07:22 PM   #3
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Old 09-09-03, 07:28 PM   #4
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I caught one of those and took it to the local zoo. Guy told me it was just black garter
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cool..i wish i could walk around and find herps but i live in a too rural area..all houses and no places for animals except this place behind my house that has water and high grass but i wouldnt think there would be any snakes..ive seen a baby fox once but thats all
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Looks good. are those red specks? or is it completely black?
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Old 09-09-03, 08:29 PM   #7
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Melanistic garter snake. All 3 subspecies of garters we have on the Island do it. Its crazy. You should see the ones with the blue bellies and the blue stripe down the dorsal! Its awesome!
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Wow that's wicked! I really love those melanistic snakes!
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Of course Favelle just had too find a better one LOL. Jeff everyone knows red looks better with black than blue does. It's quite interesting all over the prperty in different areas I've found these melanistic guys Yesterday it was a full red stripe today just a few speckles I think my best yet though was the full triple red stripe a duncan meadows golf course three years ago eating baby tree frogs she was a beauty

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Jeff she did have a blue belly but Iwould assume they all do as the increased melanin would prob. cause the normally white or yellow belly to go more of a blue.

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Ha ha, I wasn't trying to one-up you but.............LOL!!

I wonder if the melanism in simple-recessive? I never did keep one long enough to breed it and then breed its offspring. But I do know where several populations of them are! Crazy stuff eh? Maybe we should give up Ball Python morphs and breed garters??
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Old 09-10-03, 12:10 PM   #11
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Hey now you're talkin no more stinky rodent barn. And I believe they are very fond of little butterfly koi and the likes, where do you think we could find some of those? LOL!! How many years till we start selling them for $10,000.00 count me in.

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Very cool!!! Nice find.
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Old 09-10-03, 04:04 PM   #13
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That is an AWESOME garter

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Old 09-10-03, 04:10 PM   #14
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Melanistic garter snake. All 3 subspecies of garters we have on the Island do it. Its crazy. You should see the ones with the blue bellies and the blue stripe down the dorsal! Its awesome!
I caught one of those on a trip to the island as a teen ager. Your right they are an impressive blue. I have never heard of a melinistic garter. Wow learn something new even about things in your own backyard. TB
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There is a melanistic garter that occurs in my area in the Lake Erie region. I saw one once and they are really nice. The pics posted are just awesome
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