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06-19-03, 08:59 PM
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Tanks.need some help
Hey!
i just wanted to know stuff about a ball..
i am geting a ball n a sav soon.!
both babies!.
im getting a 8 foot by 2 feet enclosure!....+a big splitter in the middle...
Since there both babies...I will take out the splitter when the sav gets bigger and get a new tank for my ball.
Thats later!
I heard a tank which is 4feet by 2 feet is too big for a ball.
i heard it gets the ball stressed???!!!???
is this true?....
I am planning to feeding him in a different tank.
Its a baby
I am thinking about using aspen or pine..(dont know which 1)
I am hearing good reviews about them...
dont worry about the splitter--ITS LIKE 2 different tanks.!
can i have some help guys!
thanks!
t.P
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06-19-03, 09:14 PM
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The tank even with the splitter is way too big for a baby bp in my opinion. I suggest getting a 4x2 foot enclosure and using a divider in that and then upgrading to a 6x2 with a divider.
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06-19-03, 09:25 PM
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In all reality nothing is too large for a baby snake (after all, they aren't confined to a 2x1 cage when they hatch out in the wild ), but you have to make sure it is heavily planted, lots of stuff to hide in, lotes of substrate with different levels, lots of plants, etc. so your baby snake feels very secure. What stresses these animals is not large cages, but rather large spaces. The problem with this is that it is difficult to maintain and very difficult to find your snake, which you will rarely if ever see in a cage that size.
As for substrates, aspen is fine (be careful however for feeding, as it can cause your snake to become impacted if it is ingested... it's a good practice to feed on or in something else to prevent this). Pine however is not recommended. Pine is a softwood, and all softwoods contain oils which are all toxic to some degree. Cedar being the most toxic of them all, which acts as a neurotoxin, often producing fatal results. Pine isn't nearly as toxic, but is more of a mild respiratory irritant in small animals and reptiles.
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06-19-03, 09:32 PM
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Ahh Linds you are right to some extent, but I wouldn't go as far as relating this to the wild as we know there are thousands of factors not present when housing away from the wild. The big cages aren't necessary, and as Linds mentioned they would have to be covered with multiple hides. Other contributing factors include maintaining humidity in a larger enclosure and the fact that they really wont use this extra space.
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06-19-03, 09:40 PM
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and it's much more costly to heat. I have my 6 month old in a rubbermaid shoe box and it's doing awsome with just a water dish and a hide. seems the way to go at least when they are young. I'm thinking of puting it in an empy 20 g. though.
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06-19-03, 09:44 PM
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HEY!
Guys!
I have a 8 feeter...how would u split it?..REMEMBER i want the baby sav to be comfortable too!
thanks!
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06-19-03, 10:09 PM
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An 8 foot ball python?
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06-19-03, 10:10 PM
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lol!!!!
no...the enclosure......!!!!
how would u split a ball?!!???!!!??!!!
LOL!!!!!!!
ahahahah
im out
T.P
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06-19-03, 10:19 PM
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Why not just get 2 aquariums for your 2 critters?
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06-19-03, 10:20 PM
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LOL, i was gonna say 8 foot would be a record for a ball python
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06-19-03, 10:55 PM
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I would just keep the sav alone and put the ball in a rubbermaid for now.
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07-14-03, 02:40 PM
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I agree with linds, but You don't have to add shelves. Just put a lot of hide places, lots of vines and fake plants, make her/him feel comfortable. If that seems like to big and he/she seems stressed, go get a 10 gal until he/she gets a little bigger, put another splitter in there ( make 8ft, 4ft, make 4ft, 2ft until the snake gets bigger then finally make the 2 ft 4ft, and you have your seperated cage for your sav and bp! Hope that helps, thats just an Idea!
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07-14-03, 02:46 PM
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I would not even use a splitter, that is just askin for trouble. Sav's are feisty and good at escaping so I would house the BP by it's self.
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