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[fanmaninacan]

Hey..

I haveing a conversation with this person *name will be undisclosed*...I was going to adopt 2 beardies...1 with no tail n 1 with a tail but 1 years old nad wont grow......I said i would pick em up today on th aphone..but we met up online in MSN...... Check it out who was fair?----I just want oppnions--Im not mentioning any names....I dont want to get a bad name for myself..



$#@!^*&$^# says:
HEY!
$#@!^*&$^# says:
Im worried that tha uvb is to small for them?
Krissy says:
well then go buy a new one
Krissy says:
i dont have more uv
$#@!^*&$^# says:
would it be ok though for at least 1 month
Krissy says:
yea of course....
$#@!^*&$^# says:
cuz i need 50 for food
$#@!^*&$^# says:
ok
Krissy says:
trust me, its okay.
Krissy says:
do you know anyone who wants a 2 week old dragon?
$#@!^*&$^# says:
free?
Krissy says:
i did some talking with others, dont put them with 1 month old dragons
Krissy says:
yea free..
Krissy says:
but the dragon is in horrible shape.
Krissy says:
its tail is curly and his spine is screwed up
Krissy says:
by the way, how old are you
$#@!^*&$^# says:
tha 2 weeker
$#@!^*&$^# says:
16
Krissy says:
ok
$#@!^*&$^# says:
im also getting 3 or 4 urs on WED
$#@!^*&$^# says:

Krissy says:
yea the 2 week old one has spine problems
$#@!^*&$^# says:
aww
$#@!^*&$^# says:
poor thing
Krissy says:
yea, i wanna find that one a good home too
Krissy says:
do you have rogers internet?
$#@!^*&$^# says:
Nope......
$#@!^*&$^# says:
dsl
$#@!^*&$^# says:
execulink
$#@!^*&$^# says:
y
Krissy says:
ok did you get a chance to look at keera and maiden?
Krissy says:
i was gonna send over a pic but nevermind
$#@!^*&$^# says:
yep...////....th a1 with no tail look really fat and normal!
$#@!^*&$^# says:
but tha smaller 1 is a little iffy
Krissy says:
they are a little skiddish because they are scared.
Krissy says:
iffy?
$#@!^*&$^# says:
its not looking great...
Krissy says:
she is a normal dragon so she is naturally dark
$#@!^*&$^# says:
oh.....so there skittsh
Krissy says:
yeah is that a problem?
$#@!^*&$^# says:
naww....not really i have to tame em.....is holding tha 1 with tha broken rib a problem?
$#@!^*&$^# says:

$#@!^*&$^# says:
tah 1 worrys me
$#@!^*&$^# says:
that*
Krissy says:
no she is recovered.
$#@!^*&$^# says:
ic...
$#@!^*&$^# says:
im still freaked about that 1..i dont want it to die!
Krissy says:
if you are too worried about them you dont need to take them, i have others who want them also
$#@!^*&$^# says:
i want them lol
Krissy says:
ok...just making sure, cuz both females are 100% healthy, eating pooping and everything there is nothing wrong with them except they are smaller than others
$#@!^*&$^# says:
ic...taht 1 eith no tail looks huge
$#@!^*&$^# says:
!
Krissy says:
its very small
$#@!^*&$^# says:
tha body
$#@!^*&$^# says:
at least
Krissy says:
she is still a baby.
$#@!^*&$^# says:
a 4 months right
Krissy says:
yea
$#@!^*&$^# says:
arnt they normally 4-5 inches (body ) in 4 months
$#@!^*&$^# says:
and 10
Krissy says:
she is 3.5 inches
$#@!^*&$^# says:
with tail
$#@!^*&$^# says:
o
Krissy says:
and the other one is 4 inches.
Krissy says:
it doesnt matter tho, if you are gonna give them a better home that is what counts..but i want them to go to a good home where they will be tooken care of because i love those dragons and i am findng it hard to give them away
$#@!^*&$^# says:
4 inches with tail?
Krissy says:
not counting the tail
$#@!^*&$^# says:
oh..n she 1 years old fight./
$#@!^*&$^# says:
right*
Krissy says:
yeah
$#@!^*&$^# says:
ic.....!....im just asking....but would it be ok to take the 1 with no tail only.......its ok if its not
$#@!^*&$^# says:

Krissy says:
well if so, you cant have the tank
$#@!^*&$^# says:
ouch.
Krissy says:
what the heck do you expect the other one to live in?
$#@!^*&$^# says:
ic ic.........but u said u had another wanting 1.?..right.,...if u can it would help me out alot...
Krissy says:
but now that i know you dont want the toher one, i might as well not give it to you as for you will just give it away
Krissy says:
yea but the other person wanting it doesnt have a tank for it
$#@!^*&$^# says:
hummm...ic......ok shure i'll take em both.!1....r they used to being together..cuz all i have is an extra 10 gallon
Krissy says:
ugh
$#@!^*&$^# says:
..
Krissy says:
my boyfriend doesnt wanna give the tail less one with a key
Krissy says:
cage sorry
Krissy says:
i have a tank here but it would cost you
$#@!^*&$^# says:
how much?
Krissy says:
20$
$#@!^*&$^# says:
how mig?
$#@!^*&$^# says:
b
Krissy says:
its a 15 or 20 long with screen lid and since the tailless will never have a tail, she can live in their for the rest of her life no s
Krissy says:
problem
$#@!^*&$^# says:
but she will stll grow........n other wont right?
$#@!^*&$^# says:
still*
$#@!^*&$^# says:
so shel lprolly end up getting about 7-9 inches
$#@!^*&$^# says:
body
Krissy says:
i dont know...i am not guaranteeing she will grow any bigger, you CAN NOT breeder her because of her size, if you are looking for a bearded dragon that you can breed, go else where
$#@!^*&$^# says:
i already know that......u said that like 4 times
$#@!^*&$^# says:
lol
Krissy says:
my boyfriend said that
$#@!^*&$^# says:
oh
Krissy says:
so whats it gonna be
$#@!^*&$^# says:
i stll want her..but i dont see y i'll have to pay for a 15-20 gallon for her..
$#@!^*&$^# says:
n not tha 3.5
$#@!^*&$^# says:
she needs mor space than that
$#@!^*&$^# says:

Krissy says:
because that is not the tank she is in, you dont seem to understand that the 3.5 footer is split in half for 2 dragons, you only want one and i have an extra tank but i will have to sell it because its for my rescue program.
$#@!^*&$^# says:
ic..but y dont u just use tha 20 gallon for tha other beardie and when u find a taker give it to her..but keep tha 20 gallon
$#@!^*&$^# says:
nm
Krissy says:
uh no.
Krissy says:
just forget it i will give them to another person because i dont need all this hassle.
$#@!^*&$^# says:
thats was cheap..i already bought th asand
$#@!^*&$^# says:
i emailed u
Krissy says:
listen, we had a deal, you changed the deal, screwing me over, and you want to take my big tank for one dragon, and i cant do that
Krissy says:
besides you are getting other dragons, so you didnt waste the sand
$#@!^*&$^# says:
ok...ok......i'll take both........but would u mind if i gave 1 2 a friend....hes exprienced.....n i trust him alot?
$#@!^*&$^# says:
he have a cage n set up
$#@!^*&$^# says:
has*
Krissy says:
no, nevermind, i will just keep them here.
$#@!^*&$^# says:
huh?..y i can give them a good gome each
$#@!^*&$^# says:
home*
$#@!^*&$^# says:
----its just like tha deal we had planned
$#@!^*&$^# says:
(almost)
Krissy says:
because i dont need the hassle you are putting me through.
Krissy says:
btw did you sell yoru ps2 for dragons?
$#@!^*&$^# says:
nO hassle..i'll come n pick em up 2day
$#@!^*&$^# says:
n im gone
$#@!^*&$^# says:
YES!
Krissy says:
i said just forget it i will keep them.
Krissy says:
go get dragons from donalds dragons
$#@!^*&$^# says:
im not......uros......i cant put tha healthy 1 with tha 1s u have...so i was just going to get uros...n ur beardies
$#@!^*&$^# says:
its no different but
$#@!^*&$^# says:
i didnt want soooo many dragons
Krissy says:
u were going to put a uro with the beardies?
$#@!^*&$^# says:
no!
$#@!^*&$^# says:
LOL!
$#@!^*&$^# says:
not even!
$#@!^*&$^# says:

Krissy says:
well my boyfriend doesnt want to give them away anymore.
Krissy says:
he was reading our convo and doesnt think its worth the trouble
$#@!^*&$^# says:
huh...u guys arnt having any..i just wanted to make shure what health they were in.....
$#@!^*&$^# says:
im just comeing picking them up
$#@!^*&$^# says:
thats all is dont see any trouble?
Krissy says:
listen, you hassled me about the tank, stating you want my big tank when the beardie has no tail, why dont you just come pick up the tailless dragon and give me 20$ for the 20 gal tank
Krissy says:
that is my offer, take it or leave it
$#@!^*&$^# says:
i'll take both!
$#@!^*&$^# says:
whats tha diff
Krissy says:
the difference is my boyfriend doesnt even want me to give you ANY OF THEM...if you arent taking the one, then your not getting any at all.
$#@!^*&$^# says:
Ok..hold 1...FIRST u said take both.......Then i say ok...now ur saying take 1?
$#@!^*&$^# says:
I realyy dont understans
$#@!^*&$^# says:
undersatand#
Krissy says:
YOU DIDNT WANNA TAKE THE ONE WITH THE TAIL YOU SAID SHE DOESNT LOOK GOOD AND YOU WANT TO TAKE THE TAILLESS WITH THE BIG CAGE AND I SAID NO. I AM GETTING FRUSTRATED WITH YOU, SO WHY DONT YOU GET SOME DRAGONS ELSE WHERE AND I WILL FIND THEM A BETTER HOME.
$#@!^*&$^# says:
i'll take BOTH!!...i said it like 5 times now.........that was our deal first right>?...Better Home----what r u saying--Im not a good home?
Krissy says:
YOU ASKED ME IF YOU CAN TAKE ONE AND THEN YOU ASK ME IF YOU CAN GIVE ONE AWAY, THAT IS NO WAY IN HELL A GOOD HOME FOR THEM.
Krissy says:
I HAVE MATURE ADULTS THAT ARE WILLING TO TAKE THEM AND NOT GET HUSSLED AROUND
$#@!^*&$^# says:
y?....ITS A GOOD FRIEND.,,,,,I KNOE HELL TAKE CARE IF HER
$#@!^*&$^# says:
he'll
$#@!^*&$^# says:
look at it from my side
$#@!^*&$^# says:
of
Krissy says:
AND HOW AM I SUPPOSE TO KNOW THAT....I DONT NEED TO LOOK AT IT FROM YOUR SIDE, THE MOMENT YOU STARTED CHANGING THINGS AROUND IS THE MOMENT WE CHANGED OUR MINDS.
$#@!^*&$^# says:
NO ts tha same as b4 now
Krissy says:
I DONT TRUST ITS A GOOD HOME FOR THEM AND I WILL JUST ADOPT THEM TO A MATURE COUPLE.
$#@!^*&$^# says:
i'll come pick both of em up....n there going to good homes
Krissy says:
DONT TRY TO FIX IT, YOU ALREADY GAVE ME A BAD IMPRESSION.
$#@!^*&$^# says:
i did..??...look back read it.....U were acting impolite...i was just asking questions
Krissy says:
LISTEN KID, I HAVE HAD ENOUGH!
$#@!^*&$^# says:
$#@!^*&$^# says:
ic.....!....im just asking....but would it be ok to take the 1 with no tail only.......its ok if its not
$#@!^*&$^# says:

Krissy says:
well if so, you cant have the tank
$#@!^*&$^# says:
ouch.
Krissy says:
what the heck do you expect the other one to live in?
$#@!^*&$^# says:
ic ic.........but u said u had another wanting 1.?..right.,...if u can it would help me out alot...

$#@!^*&$^# says:
?
$#@!^*&$^# says:
see
Krissy says:
GIVE IT UP. AFTER ASKING ME STUPID QUESTIONS, I HAVE DECIDED NOT TO ADOPT THEM OUT TO YOU. SORRY HAVE A NICE LIFE
$#@!^*&$^# says:
N u say i give u a bad impression..looking whos acting all mean n ****
Krissy says:
BECAUSE I AM AN EXPERIENCED REPTILE OWNER AND I OWN MY OWN RESCUE, I AM A MATURE PERSON IN WHICH I AM ADOPTING OUT MY DRAGONS AND YOU SIT THERE AND WANT ONE OF THE DRAGONS WITH THE BIG TANK AND THEN WONT EVEN PAY 20$ FOR A DIFFERENT TANK FOR ONE OF THE DRAGONS, GROW UP , I GOTTA GO BYE
$#@!^*&$^# says:
ok..thanks any wazz......Too bad we couldent work this out..
$#@!^*&$^# says:
bye




Im ------- $#@!^$$#
the other person(name might have been changed)---Krissy


What do u guy think..
thanks alot!

Ton Paul

[gonesnakee]

I think it all looks like jibberish & makes no sense to me. I myself refuse to deal with idiots & I don't deal with children, I deal with their parents. Whenever I find out I'm dealing with a child I bring in the parent to do the deal or it isn't even discussed. Internet dealings aren't my favourite either & I avoid doing them if I can. Just about every idiot has a computer nowadays. Good Policys IMO Mark I.

[JeffT]

What really are we supposed to think? Just curious though...were those all her dragons that she raised?? they sound like they are in pretty crappy condition.

[yankeefoxtrot]

Heh, i would have gave up with that little punk way before you did. Can you say "BLOCK" i knew you could!. Well im glad he did not get any!!! I only feel sorry for the ones he may get in the future

Lucas out

[stretch]

It sounds to me like she was kind of rude. But you were asking to many unecessary questions. Thats just what I got out of it.

[fanmaninacan]

Hey !


yankeefoxtrot -- Kids??!...HUMM AGEISM PROBLEMS??
Im 16--Kids..wat?...Well if im allowed to drive in city streets n get a job?...it makes me able to take care of myself...OK...thats ........Like maybe when i was 12 or 13 my parents got my back for every stupid thing i do but...now , not even.......I still love em though..LOL...
Se what i mean when u mention 16 pple thing ur a baby....Like honestly whats tha hell is wrong with this...No respect.LOL!!

back to my question..i just wanted to know who was being rude..I was asking questions because if 1 is 1 year old and less tha 10 inches n 1 has no tail....U GOOTA WATCH out, Dont u think...n asking is tha best way!!..
i thouht asking questions was a good thing! LOL
Thanks yall
ton paul---cant wait im getting uros!

[Youkai]

It isn't age. Dealing with minors opens a whole can of worms. I would have made sure the parents were involved as well.

And while I would have to say the other person was being somewhat rude, I would have refused to hand the animals over as well. Parental persmission issues, but you were also talking about cutting corners on care, and giving the animals away. A phone call goes a long way to avoid misunderstandings. I'd try that instead of MSN next time.

[gonesnakee]

As far as my dealing with kids comments, it is not the age, but the maturity issue. I have dealt with many early teens such as Jeff T. above & had no problems, as he is mature & conducts himself properly in business situations & has his parents support in his hobby. I do like to have the parents acknoledge the transaction & possibly be involved due to the fact that I'm an adult dealing with a minor though. There are lots of kids out there that do nothing, but waste your time also. It may be a game to some, but is serious business to people such as myself. All you 18 & unders don't need to be offended, but need to be mature enough to understand where people like me are coming from. If you can't understand you are not as mature as you think. Glad to see all you young herpers out there, you are our future. Mark I. - GONE SNAKEE!

[Melly18]

Ok i read this and to be honest it's REALLY confusing.... which one are you?? your telling us your the one who wants to adopt the beardies so that would make you "$#@!^*&$^#" in the convo right..... but then you say

Originally posted by fanmaninacan
Hey..
I haveing a conversation with this person *name will be undisclosed*...----I just want oppnions--Im not mentioning any names....I dont want to get a bad name for myself..

so if your not mentioning names that would mean your "Krissy"..... ??? ???



Ok nevermind this post..... i FINALY saw what was said at the end.....

[marisa]

I can't say who is right or wrong overall....but the part when you said, or even mentioned, giving one to your friend would have been the end of the situation for a lot of rescues. They are very serious about checking out the home, the situation, the enclosure, the life the herp will have. They don't take lightly to the idea the animal might be in *Another* pair of hands so soon, which they know nothing about.

Marisa

[depressor86]

Sounds like both sides were pretty edgy here ...
I can understand why she decided to close the deal, but it was a little rude to try and force the sale of a 20g tank.
Anyways hope the lil beardies get a nice home

[Andy_G]

I think if I was in the person's position, I would have kept the dragons as well. She was sort of rude but you kind of gave a bad impression by switching things around.

If you did not see the dragons and inquire about them before you made the deal, that was improper business fashion, and I get the impression you two had already touched upon a deal. Last minute questions are not a good thing in a case like this.

I think it was pretty even...JMO and don't be too offended by it if you can help it.

[CyberGhost]

Thats a little confusing, but I think you both were a little wrong in the way you handled the situation but whoever was $#@!^*&$^# was a little more wrong. If your trying to give the beadies away try being alittle nicer.

[fanmaninacan]

Hey!

Melly18
The $#@!^*&$^# is me!!!...Lol..thats my msn name!
tha other name is tha other person!..her name may not be krissy!
lol

I Understand....If i dont see why..she acted all rude......Let here keep tha dragons........I dun care,......,.,....Its the fact she was rude!...Thats just pissed me off.......I Was ready to mouth her off!!Could of at least be more polite.......Thanks alot guy...Im not gonna get beardies anywazz.......so just PPL look at my other post!>..help me out


Thanks Guys! (hope i didN 'T make myself A BAD NAME)

[Pixie]

I wouldn't have adopted out the dragons either. The teen didn't seem to know what he wanted, at first it was the 2 dragons & tank, after only 1 dragon and still the tank then back to both dragons and the tank.

I know if I were adopting out animals that needed a good home, I would wan't it to be with someone who displayed a bit more stability.

The fact that it's a teenager doesn't sway my opinion much as I have met quite a few that were very responsible and adults that weren't. I just wouldn't give out beardies and a tank to just anyone.

It sounds to me like someone got pissed off because he didn't get free stuff.

Pixie