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08-30-17, 01:54 PM
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New Build (Could use some help) - Adult Olive Cage
So my Olive Python pair has finally come of age where they need to move into more permanent quarters. So off I went to Lowes (with the wife's approval) to build them their forever homes.
Its 8'x3'x3' 3/4" premium pine plywood. Sealed with exterior no voc semigloss on the outside and sealed with acrylic no voc varnish and silicone. The front is 1/4" polished edge glass on sliding tracks. There is a dual purpose hide/water bowl holder as well as a back shelf. Driftwood will be added shortly.
Anyway to my conundrum. Even after keeping and breeding snakes for over 30 years, I underestimated the heating on these beasts. As seen in the picture I tried a 150w cermaic bulb and that didn't cut it. I've been told by both pro products and Reptile Basics their radiant heat panels would not heat the cage appropriately. Meaning it may heat the spot but it will not raise the ambient cage temp. The room is 70 degrees almost year round.
Does anyone have any suggestions on how to heat these cages both safely and relatively inexpensively? Both my Olive Pythons and I would appreciate the help on this. 
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08-30-17, 02:49 PM
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Re: New Build (Could use some help) - Adult Olive Cage
Multiple heat bulbs in a cluster could work.
We need to to date pictures of them too
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08-30-17, 03:16 PM
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Re: New Build (Could use some help) - Adult Olive Cage
(2) RHPs or multiple heat lamps should do the trick. I was hoping to keep my Olive in a 6x2x2 but I guess a larger cage might be necessary. I'm with Danny, can we see some current pics of your Olives? Both of ours are just yearlings and we'd like see what we can look forward to.
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08-30-17, 03:32 PM
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Re: New Build (Could use some help) - Adult Olive Cage
You'd either need multiple RHPs so $$$ lol or like danny said multiple CHE regulated on the same stat.
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08-30-17, 03:40 PM
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Re: New Build (Could use some help) - Adult Olive Cage
I am worried about using CHEs. I have had a few folks recommend not using them in light fixtures that are directly attached to the cage (even if they are ceramic fixtures). Big Apple Herp recommended a minimum of two 250w CHEs. That scares me a bit.
I was told RHPs would not work. They would heat the snake but not the air which I need with an low ambient room temp of 70 degrees.
I will get some new pics in the coming days. Feeding night tonight.
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08-31-17, 09:17 AM
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Re: New Build (Could use some help) - Adult Olive Cage
I decided to go with a pair of 250w CHEs but instead of hard mounting them, I will put them in ceramic socket domes and suspend them inside the cage. Covering the dome front with steel mesh for protection and have them on a thermostat.
On a side note, why can't we get heater tubes in the US? Seems like a UK thing only?
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08-31-17, 11:08 AM
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Re: New Build (Could use some help) - Adult Olive Cage
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Originally Posted by ttreptile1
On a side note, why can't we get heater tubes in the US? Seems like a UK thing only?
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i have noticed this as well!
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08-31-17, 12:35 PM
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Re: New Build (Could use some help) - Adult Olive Cage
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Originally Posted by ttreptile1
I decided to go with a pair of 250w CHEs but instead of hard mounting them, I will put them in ceramic socket domes and suspend them inside the cage. Covering the dome front with steel mesh for protection and have them on a thermostat.
On a side note, why can't we get heater tubes in the US? Seems like a UK thing only?
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We have all the best stuff over here 
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0.1 B imperator, 1.0 M spilota harrisoni, 1.0 C hortulanus, 2.1 P reticulatus (Madu locality), 1.1 S amethystine, 1.1 L olivaceous, 1.0 C angulifer, 1.0 Z persicus, 0.1 P regius, 0.1 N natrix, 0.1 E climacophora, 1.0 P obsoletus, 0.1 L geluta nigrtia, 1.0 P catenifer sayi, 1.0 T lepidus
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08-31-17, 12:38 PM
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Re: New Build (Could use some help) - Adult Olive Cage
Ale...ale...ale...and, ale.
That about sums it up! 
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09-02-17, 11:52 PM
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Re: New Build (Could use some help) - Adult Olive Cage
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On a side note, why can't we get heater tubes in the US? Seems like a UK thing only?
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Can't get them here in Japan either. I used to use them before I left the UK, so simple!
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09-03-17, 07:19 AM
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Re: New Build (Could use some help) - Adult Olive Cage
You can get them on eBay but the shipping costs are high because of the weight 
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09-01-17, 05:39 PM
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Re: New Build (Could use some help) - Adult Olive Cage
Little late to the party but heating the room to around 80 degrees will mean the heating element in the cage doesn't have to work as hard.
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09-01-17, 08:29 PM
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Re: New Build (Could use some help) - Adult Olive Cage
It's in my son's room. Might be a little hot to sleep in. 😉
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09-01-17, 09:29 PM
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Re: New Build (Could use some help) - Adult Olive Cage
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Originally Posted by ttreptile1
It's in my son's room. Might be a little hot to sleep in. 😉
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09-06-17, 08:01 AM
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Re: New Build (Could use some help) - Adult Olive Cage
Your Olives look AMAZING ttr! The new enclosures look great too. Don't you love it when your husbandry is dialed in beautifully? They'll be very comfy in those.
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