border
sSNAKESs : Reptile Forum
 

Go Back   sSNAKESs : Reptile Forum > Community Forums > General Discussion

Notices

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 06-08-15, 05:19 PM   #1
2Gs
Member
 
Join Date: Jan-2015
Posts: 36
Country:
Snake Bite

Hello All

We have our first snake (BRB) that is 14 months old & about 2 ft long. This is the 3rd time she has bitten my son since we have her. We always use a hook to take her out but now while my son was holding her, she was wrapped around his wrist as she normally does & all of a sudden she bit him in the forearm.

Is this normal behavior? I know that BRB grow to 5-7ft but what if this continues, What can be done to stop this?

Thank you for your help

Last edited by 2Gs; 06-09-15 at 02:53 AM..
2Gs is offline  
Login to remove ads
Old 06-08-15, 06:46 PM   #2
Praireboyfarmer
Member
 
Join Date: Apr-2015
Posts: 54
Country:
Re: Snake Bite

It could be a feeding response and yes, this is fairly typical for some snakes. Make sure you wash your hands well after handling anything the snake might find attractive for meal (Rodents, chicken, etc pretty much any meats) and feed him in a separate enclosure.

If he's snapping at you and then taking off then it's an aggressive bite in which case it is stressed out and wants to be left alone. Best bet is to put him up for a few days and try again. Don't handle him before a shed and don't handle him up to 48 hours after feeding. If you just aquired this snake it's best to leave him alone for about a week and handle him for short periods about every other day until he mellows out a bit. Young snakes tend to be snappy.
Praireboyfarmer is offline  
Old 06-09-15, 03:30 PM   #3
SnoopySnake
Member
 
SnoopySnake's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun-2013
Location: Flint
Posts: 2,256
Country:
Re: Snake Bite

Quote:
Originally Posted by Praireboyfarmer View Post
and feed him in a separate enclosure.
There is NO need to feed in a separate enclosure. How long have you had the snake?
__________________
1.1 Columbian Rainbow Boas | 1.0 White Lipped/D'Alberts Python | 0.0.1 Leachianus Gecko | 2.0 Gargoyle Geckos | 0.1 IJ Carpet Python | 1.0 Cat | 1.0 Human
-Adrian
SnoopySnake is offline  
Old 06-09-15, 03:39 PM   #4
Albert Clark
Member
 
Albert Clark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar-2015
Posts: 3,317
Country:
Re: Snake Bite

Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopySnake View Post
There is NO need to feed in a separate enclosure. How long have you had the snake?
Good point!
Albert Clark is offline  
Old 06-21-15, 07:17 PM   #5
Praireboyfarmer
Member
 
Join Date: Apr-2015
Posts: 54
Country:
Re: Snake Bite

Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopySnake View Post
There is NO need to feed in a separate enclosure. How long have you had the snake?
Well you know, every website and book written tells you to do this. So I just relayed the info as a tip.
Praireboyfarmer is offline  
Login to remove ads
Old 06-21-15, 08:10 PM   #6
Jrich
Member
 
Jrich's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec-2014
Location: Misery
Age: 32
Posts: 226
Country:
Re: Snake Bite

Quote:
Originally Posted by Praireboyfarmer View Post
Well you know, every website and book written tells you to do this. So I just relayed the info as a tip.
It's ok. I use to feed all of my snakes in separate enclosures but after learning from many experienced snake keepers that it was not necessary, I stopped. I have noticed absolutely no difference in the snake's behavior since I did stop. I really do think it's more stressful for the snake to move him into another enclosure to feed and then mess with him to get him back in his original enclosure on a full belly. Some snakes would strike at anything that moved since they were in "feed mode". I bet some sources do insist to feed in a separate enclosure but there really isn't any need.
__________________
0.1 Rosy boa (Chili),1.0 Albino Sinaloan Milk (Sheldon),1.0 Fire Corn (Cheeto)
Jrich is offline  
Old 06-22-15, 09:12 AM   #7
Mikoh4792
Member
 
Mikoh4792's Avatar
 
Join Date: May-2013
Posts: 4,858
Country:
Re: Snake Bite

Quote:
Originally Posted by Praireboyfarmer View Post
Well you know, every website and book written tells you to do this. So I just relayed the info as a tip.
This is an outdated husbandry practice, so most guides that recommend separate feeding enclosures are either old, mistaken or refer to very specific situations(housing more than one animal in the same enclosure,..etc). There's no real reason outside of these scenarios to feed outside of the enclosure.
Mikoh4792 is offline  
Old 06-22-15, 10:55 AM   #8
Aaron_S
Forum Moderator
 
Aaron_S's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov-2002
Location: Toronto
Age: 39
Posts: 16,977
Send a message via MSN to Aaron_S
Re: Snake Bite

Quote:
Originally Posted by Praireboyfarmer View Post
Well you know, every website and book written tells you to do this. So I just relayed the info as a tip.
How old are the books and websites you're reading?

It sounds sad but when we find information we have to research the source it comes from to find out where,who and how dated it may be.
Aaron_S is offline  
Old 06-09-15, 12:50 PM   #9
Wingbeats
Member
 
Wingbeats's Avatar
 
Join Date: May-2015
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 221
Country:
Re: Snake Bite

I've read that in general, Rainbow boas can be bitey when they are babies. Chaska's struck at me twice - both times, she was very stressed out and I reached for her too quickly. Once I learned how to identify her behavior when she's stressed, I haven't had an issue since. I gently handle her once a day, outside of shed times and digestion times. When I go to pick her up, I gently tap next to her first to let her know I'm there, then slowly slide my fingers under her. She seems quite calm when handled now!
__________________
I am a bird biologist newish to snake husbandry.
0.1 BRB/CRB Integrade (Chaska), 0.1 BRB (Avatre) 0.2 gray cats (Aria and River), and a bunch of fishies and carnivorous plants.
Wingbeats is offline  
Old 06-09-15, 02:59 PM   #10
Albert Clark
Member
 
Albert Clark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar-2015
Posts: 3,317
Country:
Talking Re: Snake Bite

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Gs View Post
Hello All

We have our first snake (BRB) that is 14 months old & about 2 ft long. This is the 3rd time she has bitten my son since we have her. We always use a hook to take her out but now while my son was holding her, she was wrapped around his wrist as she normally does & all of a sudden she bit him in the forearm.

Is this normal behavior? I know that BRB grow to 5-7ft but what if this continues, What can be done to stop this?

Thank you for your help
No one likes getting bitten! It does make you second guess the snake. Your concerns are normal. However, there is a reason why the snake bit your son and it probably got spooked by a quick movement or a feeling of unsteadiness by the way he was being held. And he has been bitten 3 times you said? Is anyone else holding the snake? Has anyone else got bitten? I would start out limiting the time he is held and while holding him always point his head away from you. Limit and avoid sudden movements and don't handle him before or during a shed. Try holding him after you know he has been well fed but only 36 hours after a meal. Start with these things and see if they start to help. It is a process and as he gets older the biting should cease. Hope this helped.
Albert Clark is offline  
Login to remove ads
Old 06-09-15, 06:33 PM   #11
2Gs
Member
 
Join Date: Jan-2015
Posts: 36
Country:
Re: Snake Bite

Thank you all for the response. Now we know why he was bitten. No one else in the house has been bit by her but him & here's why. He told us today that he tried to move her from his left to his right wrist & he gently tried to unwrap her from his wrist & she resisted & then bit him.
So as Albert above says the sudden movement may had caused her to strike. I had her outside in the sun today for a while & she was fine even when my daughter took her from me.

We learned a lot from this wonderful forum a year 14 months ago when we got her & 2 things we never do is handle her during a shed & leave her alone for a few days after feeding.

Thank you
2Gs is offline  
Old 06-10-15, 08:41 AM   #12
Albert Clark
Member
 
Albert Clark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar-2015
Posts: 3,317
Country:
Re: Snake Bite

Perfect! Take it slow with her and you should see progress. I would still point her head away from me to limit her ability to reach out with a bite. Eventually she will become more comfortable being held.
Albert Clark is offline  
Old 06-10-15, 08:49 AM   #13
2Gs
Member
 
Join Date: Jan-2015
Posts: 36
Country:
Re: Snake Bite

Thanks Albert, Will do!
2Gs is offline  
Old 06-22-15, 08:08 AM   #14
Albert Clark
Member
 
Albert Clark's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar-2015
Posts: 3,317
Country:
Re: Snake Bite

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Gs View Post
Thanks Albert, Will do!
Also, try and refrain from picking the snake up by the tail! The tail is a highly sensitive area for all snakes and can put them into a defensive mode. They use their tails for just about everything from balance to reproduction. The thing to do is to allow the snake to crawl off the arm onto another structure then pick them up at mid body pointing the head away from you as much as possible. Be gentle but firm.
Albert Clark is offline  
Old 06-21-15, 08:20 PM   #15
2Gs
Member
 
Join Date: Jan-2015
Posts: 36
Country:
Re: Snake Bite

I agree, We feed her in her enclosure & leave her alone for a few days & always use a hook to take her out.
She goes in her hide or under the cypress mulch right after she eats & we don't see her for a few days.
2Gs is offline  
Login to remove ads
Closed Thread


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 10:44 AM.

Powered by vBulletin®
©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright © 2002-2023, Hobby Solutions.

right