Boy shoots albino deer, gets deaththreats

Akuma223 · 10-26-14, 10:23 AM

Boy Who Shot Albino Deer With Crossbow Receives Death Threats, Family Says so whats everyones opinion on this? I think its preposterous that this kid is getting threatened because he shot this buck. Its just a deer like any other and people putting it on a pedestal because its "different" and "prettier" is aggravating. This creature is no better than any other deer. Funny thing is a guarantee most of these people buy their meat from a supermarket which is far far worse. So whats everyones thoughts on this?

Jim Smith · 10-26-14, 11:07 AM

I saw this story and while I can understand people not wanting to see such a rare animal killed, the boy did not break any laws. While I would never kill it now, when I was 14 and if I saw that buck in the same situation, I'd have shot it in a second. Death threats to a kid for any reason is a cowards way of making themselves feel better. Leave the kid alone and if anything, work towards changing the laws to make it illegal to shoot an albino deer like many/most other states have already done. Just my opinion.

**EL Ziggy** · 10-26-14, 11:10 AM

I agree with you. Nobody should be threatening the kid. Sounds like it was a clean kill. Pretty impressive actually for a kid with a crossbow. I wonder if they'll eat the meat though.

CosmicOwl · 10-26-14, 11:45 AM

The more I think about this, the more I disagree with the idea of killing this animal. It's not that I think albino animals are "special" and shouldn't be killed. I just find it impressive that such an animal has managed to survive to maturity. That deer would have been the first animal to be targeted by predators, and yet it was able to avoid all of them long enough to reach adulthood. And then somebody comes along and kills it with a crossbow. It's just sad. The deer already had so much stacked against it but it managed to defy the odds until human technology came along.

Akuma223 · 10-26-14, 12:01 PM

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The more I think about this, the more I disagree with the idea of killing this animal. It's not that I think albino animals are "special" and shouldn't be killed. I just find it impressive that such an animal has managed to survive to maturity. That deer would have been the first animal to be targeted by predators, and yet it was able to avoid all of them long enough to reach adulthood. And then somebody comes along and kills it with a crossbow. It's just sad. The deer already had so much stacked against it but it managed to defy the odds until human technology came along.

You make a very good point, I'm mostly irritated that these people just decide to threaten the boys life rather than, gee I don't know maybe work to make it illegal for that to happen.

CosmicOwl · 10-26-14, 12:10 PM

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You make a very good point, I'm mostly irritated that these people just decide to threaten the boys life rather than, gee I don't know maybe work to make it illegal for that to happen.

Death threats suck and all... but are they worse than actually killing another living creature?

eminart · 10-26-14, 12:56 PM

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Death threats suck and all... but are they worse than actually killing another living creature?

Are you asking if a death threat to a young boy is worse than him legally harvesting a deer and taking part in nature? Is that really what you're asking?

Akuma223 · 10-26-14, 03:27 PM

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Death threats suck and all... but are they worse than actually killing another living creature?

Are you a strict vegan?

shaunyboy · 10-26-14, 12:37 PM

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I agree with you. Nobody should be threatening the kid. Sounds like it was a clean kill. Pretty impressive actually for a kid with a crossbow. I wonder if they'll eat the meat though.

^^^^^
that's a great point mate...

an animal should only be killed if it's going to good use...

where the meat gets eaten,and better still the hide and antlers are going to be used

killing for the sake of killing is wrong imo

cheers shaun

shaunyboy · 10-26-14, 12:32 PM

it's terrible the kids getting threats over this.....

that said,if it was me and my young son out hunting,i would have told him not to take the shot,because it was such a unique animal...

but that's just my personal feelings on killing an albino of any species,i think they are beautiful and unique and should not be killed

i have no ill will towards people who shoot them though...

each to their own

cheers shaun

eminart · 10-26-14, 12:53 PM

Albinism is rare in the wild because it puts the animal at a disadvantage. There's no reason to view the animal as "special" or somehow above the food chain.

I also always see a lot of comments by non-hunters about how the animal should be eaten. I'm 37 years old. I've hunted literally since I was old enough to follow my dad. And, I've been surrounded by other hunters most of my life. The animals are ALWAYS eaten. I'm not saying there has never been a case where it didn't happen. But those are extreme cases by "hunters" that none of us would claim. Hunters don't go out there killing things and not using them.

shaunyboy · 10-26-14, 05:23 PM

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Albinism is rare in the wild because it puts the animal at a disadvantage. There's no reason to view the animal as "special" or somehow above the food chain.

i disagree mate

the fact that the animal reached the age it did regardless of all the disadvantages it faced,along with it being a rare occurrence in the first place.....

makes said creature special and should grant it special dispensation

re hunters
i have no issues with hunting in any shape or form.....

all my life i have hunted using a variety of methods which have included,guns,ferrets,lurchers,traps,etc

when i was younger i even did a bit of poaching,when my father and grandfather taught me how to feed myself without running to a super market or shop

but as a hunter i would not take the life of something so rare...

that's just my own personal feelings on the matter

as said in my last post...

each to their own

cheers shaun

eminart · 10-27-14, 05:54 AM

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First of all, hunting with a crossbow is not, "taking part in nature."

It is indeed. Humans aren't exactly equipped to kill deer with our teeth. We've always used our brains and ingenuity to come up with easier ways to kill prey. But, if you think killing a deer with a crossbow is just killing and not hunting, I invite you to try it. I don't use a crossbow, but I've been bowhunting since I was 10, and it's a lot more difficult than you might think. A lot of non-hunters get their impression of deer from those that live in parks and neighborhoods and are fed by people all the time. It's a different animal that lives out in real nature.

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i disagree mate

the fact that the animal reached the age it did regardless of all the disadvantages it faced,along with it being a rare occurrence in the first place.....

And now it caught up to it.

The fact is, albino deer tend to be genetically inferior. You never see a truly big one, they often have poor eyesight, and they have smaller antlers. Humans have replaced the deers' natural predators in most places, so WE are the ones that weed out the weak. If we let the albinos live because we think they're somehow special, we're just allowing inferior genes an unfair advantage over more robust genes.

So, it's not only a silly human sentiment to let the white ones walk, but it's also detrimental to the herd.

David VB · 10-27-14, 07:05 AM

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It is indeed. Humans aren't exactly equipped to kill deer with our teeth. We've always used our brains and ingenuity to come up with easier ways to kill prey. But, if you think killing a deer with a crossbow is just killing and not hunting, I invite you to try it. I don't use a crossbow, but I've been bowhunting since I was 10, and it's a lot more difficult than you might think. A lot of non-hunters get their impression of deer from those that live in parks and neighborhoods and are fed by people all the time. It's a different animal that lives out in real nature.

And now it caught up to it.

The fact is, albino deer tend to be genetically inferior. You never see a truly big one, they often have poor eyesight, and they have smaller antlers. Humans have replaced the deers' natural predators in most places, so WE are the ones that weed out the weak. If we let the albinos live because we think they're somehow special, we're just allowing inferior genes an unfair advantage over more robust genes.

So, it's not only a silly human sentiment to let the white ones walk, but it's also detrimental to the herd.

Most of 'us humans' don't use it at all... Would be better to use it to save animals and help the planet getting healthy again instead of killing animals for pleasure!!!

eminart · 10-27-14, 07:29 AM

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Most of 'us humans' don't use it at all... Would be better to use it to save animals and help the planet getting healthy again instead of killing animals for pleasure!!!

We really shouldn't get into this, but I'll just throw this out there........

Hunters have more respect for nature than non-hunters.

WHAT!? you say!

I assume you agree that in nature, animals eat other animals and it's all a big balance. I also assume that you agree that humans are omnivores, meaning that they evolved to eat at least some meat.

But, you're also going to say that it is now somehow superior to NOT eat meat, even though that is how nature is designed. So, you believe your silly human notions are superior to eons of natural design and nature. Why? Why is your sentimentality "better" than nature's design?

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save animals and help the planet getting healthy again

I'd also like to add, that here in the U.S. where we have very well regulated game management, hunting DOES help the animals. If you think some animals falling to predators is bad, then you have absolutely no understanding of how nature works.