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05-30-14, 04:40 PM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
Now that's gonna sting. All joking aside it just shows the damage these large snakes a capable of causing
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05-30-14, 07:52 PM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
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Now that's gonna sting. All joking aside it just shows the damage these large snakes a capable of causing
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i was pretty much shot down in flames for telling a new keeper who was thinking of getting a burm.....
you really need to have at least one other person present when handling,giving meds,etc
most folk reckoned that one new slightly arrogant young keeper would be just fine and in no real danger
in the end i gave up trying to convince them,that a Burm is really powerful creature and should never be under estimated
re the link
that's one nasty looking wound,imagine if that had been the guys face instead of his for arm
thanks for sharing mate
cheers shaun
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05-30-14, 08:21 PM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
Wow, that reinforces the danger and power of large snakes!
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05-30-14, 04:41 PM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
Autchy, that does not look very pleasant!
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05-30-14, 04:52 PM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
That is one of the nastiest bites I have seen from a snake, he's very lucky it wasn't worse
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05-30-14, 05:25 PM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
Ouch! This does not help my paranoia of owning a 10+ foot snake, lol, at all. Hence why I will never get one. I've gotten bit by snakes, but nothing that even required a hospital visit.
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05-30-14, 05:36 PM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
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Ouch! This does not help my paranoia of owning a 10+ foot snake, lol, at all. Hence why I will never get one. I've gotten bit by snakes, but nothing that even required a hospital visit.
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Yeah but you can't let the "what if's" keep you from getting what you truly want (if large snake is what you want)
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05-30-14, 07:06 PM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
Male retics can be the most dangerous non-venomous snake in the world when in breeding mode. You talk to any retic breeder who has been through a few seasons and they will all tell you even though the females get bigger, it's the males in breeding season you need to watch out for. This is exactly why you need to have backup when handling a big snake. This is also why males are usually slow grown and a lot of people try to keep them on the smaller side so in the event you do get a breeding season bite, it's nowhere near this bad.
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05-31-14, 08:23 AM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
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Male retics can be the most dangerous non-venomous snake in the world when in breeding mode. You talk to any retic breeder who has been through a few seasons and they will all tell you even though the females get bigger, it's the males in breeding season you need to watch out for. This is exactly why you need to have backup when handling a big snake. This is also why males are usually slow grown and a lot of people try to keep them on the smaller side so in the event you do get a breeding season bite, it's nowhere near this bad.
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That's just sad to read.
Selfishness ahead of respect for the animal we all "love".
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05-31-14, 09:33 AM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
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That's just sad to read.
Selfishness ahead of respect for the animal we all "love".
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Agreed, when I get my male I plan to grow him just the same as my female
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05-31-14, 10:24 AM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
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That's just sad to read.
Selfishness ahead of respect for the animal we all "love".
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I would agree with you, however I think it's the other side of the story that's sad. I'd say more often than not, Male snakes that breeders" slow grow" are fed in a more healthy manner. The females seem to be way over fed to get them up to Breeding size as quickly as possible. Not the case with all breeders, but definitely a trend that's not uncommon.
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06-01-14, 03:25 PM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
Wow! awesome post. I wonder if he had and nerve damage.
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06-01-14, 05:03 PM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
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That's just sad to read.
Selfishness ahead of respect for the animal we all "love".
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90% of retics are overweight in captivity. "Keeping it small" being used the way it is by breeders, would actually in my opinion be the proper way of doing it as opposed to feeding a baby every 5 days. As long as the snake isn't underweight there is absolutely nothing wrong with keeping your snake small. And really it doesn't always keep them small, it just slows down the process.
All in all I think for any retic bigger than 5 foot, once a week feeding is ridiculous. (unless your bulking up a female for breeding)
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06-02-14, 07:55 AM
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Re: A reminder of what can happen
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90% of retics are overweight in captivity. "Keeping it small" being used the way it is by breeders, would actually in my opinion be the proper way of doing it as opposed to feeding a baby every 5 days. As long as the snake isn't underweight there is absolutely nothing wrong with keeping your snake small. And really it doesn't always keep them small, it just slows down the process.
All in all I think for any retic bigger than 5 foot, once a week feeding is ridiculous. (unless your bulking up a female for breeding)
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I get your thought process and where you're coming from.
I disagree in slowing down a process of a snake that regularily hits well over 10 feet for both male and females. Regardless of breeding. In the context it was initially said was that the animals are kept smaller purely to keep them a more managable size for the breeder. Nothing to do with health except for their own. Selfish as I said.
The last comment needs more context.
Is it bad to feed a snake the largest meal it can possibly take every week? Most likely yes.
Is it bad to feed by weight and keeping the meals a healthy size so it keeps a very healthy growth rate/healthy size on the snake? No.
Example, I feed my snakes, multiple species now, the same way. I use a 10 - 15% of body weight in their prey item on a regular feeding schedule. This has shown me over years to give both males and females a healthy growth rate. For adults I feed the same way and it's maintained males and breeding females with ample weight gain to give me healthy clutches/babies.
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