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Old 01-13-14, 11:03 AM   #1
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Varanids Counting and other intelligent things

Apparently some Monitors can count (The Biology of Varanid Lizards - King/Green) - thats not something I expected to come across, I assumed they would be less intelligent than say Crows, but perhaps not? Crows are extremely intelligent of course

Anyone here tried any of the standard tests for intelligence on their varanids? lab testing and real world testing can throw up diffrent results, be interesting to hear how intelligent peoples monitors are

Lots of animal intelligence tests can be found around the web, tests for birds are a good place to start probably, test for dogs and cats may be pushing it a bit...although i'm pretty sure I have never owned a cat that could count lol

Also found notes on cooperation between individual monitors, working together to gain access to a food source in quite complex ways (one leads away female croc from nest, other one digs up nest while coast is clear) - any cohab monitors out there doing interesting things?
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Varanidae Intelligence by Dr. Gordon Burghardt - Full PDF

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I've tried to load this pdf several times now, but it doesnt make any sense, i think something is wrong with the formatting? am I the only person having trouble with it?
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Wayne the 1st vid i hate & will always hate, poor animal.

last vid is great!!
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Bit crude on his foot work! but it was his 1st time, you could see him ripping rotten tree trucks apart to get bugs out.

Monitor Lizard Work out Part 2 - YouTube
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Bit crude on his foot work! but it was his 1st time, you could see him ripping rotten tree trucks apart to get bugs out.

Monitor Lizard Work out Part 2 - YouTube
To be fair to him His feet really weren't designed for that lol
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although the first video was more impressive, the last one is definitely fascinating.
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although the first video was more impressive, the last one is definitely fascinating.
Agreed!!! Barring any major F-ups on our part, it would be amazing to see how evolution treats monitors in the next million years or so...
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Those are awesome videos!
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awsome

will have to come up with some interesting things to build into my savs new enclosure to make his brain work a bit harder
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Very impressive.. The sav in the first video, is that healthy? I don't keep varanids but it looks lethargic the way it drags it's body along rather than lifting to walk.
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Very impressive.. The sav in the first video, is that healthy? I don't keep varanids but it looks lethargic the way it drags it's body along rather than lifting to walk.
You are not the first to notice.

I feel the same way as do others.
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Very impressive.. The sav in the first video, is that healthy? I don't keep varanids but it looks lethargic the way it drags it's body along rather than lifting to walk.
correct!! that's why i hate the vid, not the purpose.
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Re: Varanids Counting and other intelligent things

was also intrigued to see another Sav eagerly drinking from a bowl of water - and the slight glimpse of the enclosure suggests it may be very dry, looks like paper towel and cork hides?

lets try not to derail the thread tho...this particular area has been well gone over and established
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was also intrigued to see another Sav eagerly drinking from a bowl of water - and the slight glimpse of the enclosure suggests it may be very dry, looks like paper towel and cork hides?

lets try not to derail the thread tho...this particular area has been well gone over and established
It may be a "well gone over area" but it's more important than how intelligent they are... A dead monitor isn't very smart/intelligent lol..

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You are not the first to notice.

I feel the same way as do others.
Never watched any of his vids before, the study seems interesting but at the expense of health?... Any way I'll stop de-railing the thread.
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