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11-11-13, 06:09 PM
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New Here (advise please?)
Hi all! My name's Mack and I'm a pretty experienced snake keeper who has taken a break for a while but now looking to get back in
Here's the scoop. My bf is terrified of snakes. It's taken a lot to get him to the point of being ok with having one in our house, and I don't want to screw it up. I'm looking for suggestions on what snake would be the best (i.e. calmest, most tractable) snake to have around someone who is scared of them.
In the past I've had an assortment of corns (love them, but looking for a new experience) BCI, BP, black & andean milksnakes, kings, and lastly, a spotted python. The real damage was done with my bf when he saw the spotted bite and start constricting my hand! I want to make sure the next snake I get will be as unlikely as possible to do something like this again. I understand that there is always the possibility, but I'd like to at least reduce the likelihood of it happening.
The snakes I'm most considering right now are a baird's rat, african house snake, russian rat or rosy boa. I'd say the russian rat and rosy are my top picks. Russians have proven very difficult to find, and I've read a lot about how rosies can be pretty bitey. Does anyone have any experience with this? I've heard that the mexican rosies are calmer. I for one am interested in the harquahala locality. Anyone with any experience with them and temperament? I am open to any suggestions as well.
Just to reiterate, I'm interested in getting a pet that will serve as a sort snake ambassador to my bf. Hopefully I can convince him that they aren't all mean! Thanks,
-Mack
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11-11-13, 06:47 PM
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Re: New Here (advise please?)
Hey and welcome!
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11-11-13, 06:55 PM
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Re: New Here (advise please?)
Welcome. My girl friend was terrified of snakes also. I bought a corn. She now owns her own corn. I now have 8 snakes.
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1.Corn snake. 1.Mexican milk snake. 2.California king snakes. 2. Western hognose snakes. 1. Pastel checker garter. 1. Checker garter. 1.Columbian red tail boa. 1. Ball python. 1. Smooth green snake. 1. Five lined skink. 1. Grey tree frog. 1. Chinese water dragon. 3 Bearded Dragons. 2 Leapard Geckos. 1. Black cat. and Lucy my border collie/lab.
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11-11-13, 07:22 PM
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Re: New Here (advise please?)
Hey, welcome! Mexican black kings are very docile snakes. Mine wouldn't hurt a fly!.....well, maybe a mouse lol but you get the point. I have a friend who had a Rosie and sold it for a different one because it was bitey. Russian rat snakes also sound like a great option!
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11-11-13, 07:23 PM
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Re: New Here (advise please?)
Hi, thanks for the welcome!
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11-11-13, 07:53 PM
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Re: New Here (advise please?)
Welcome! I have a rosy who is 15 and she is the most docile, calm snake I own. She is never nervous, never has struck or anything... plus they have tiny little heads :-)
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0.1 Jungle Carpet "Bhageera", 2.0 Corn snakes "Castor & Pollux", 1.1 Cal Kings "Lux & Nyx", 0.1 Honduran Milksnake "Demeter", 0.1 Rosy boa "Neki-monster", 1.0 Axolotl "Grendle", 2 tarantulas, 0.1 Leopard gecko "Remus", and a freezer full of mice (and Rats!)….
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11-11-13, 08:44 PM
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Re: New Here (advise please?)
If you're looking at rosies, check out Kenyan sand boas, too . Admittedly, one of mine is an ******* but the other two wouldn't bite me even if I tried to get them to. Gobi, my adult male, is actually the only snake my fiance will handle .
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11-11-13, 10:20 PM
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Re: New Here (advise please?)
If your main criteria is something that will most help your boyfriend feel comfortable, and if your two choices are a rat snake or rosy boa, the answer is Rosy Boa. I have read too that some Rosy Boas are bitey, but that is the exception, not the norm. I think that they are deemed so docile that people start posting about bites just to remind others that they are snakes and can bite. I have met one that would try to strike anything, but most are exceptionally docile. My wife hates snakes, and will no go near any of them, but she will handle my rosy boa. Good pets all around imo.
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11-11-13, 10:20 PM
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Re: New Here (advise please?)
... And welcome to the forum!
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11-11-13, 10:46 PM
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Re: New Here (advise please?)
Hello and welcome! I'd suggest the Rosy boa too. My Mom isn't a big fan of snakes but she likes my really calm male Mexican Rosy, we drove two and a half hours to pick him up and on the way back he coiled up around her arm and went to sleep, ever since, he's been her favorite.
Another species I'd recommend would be a tricolor Hognose, L. pulcher. They are fairly difficult to find but our little one is super laid back and probably the most non head shy snake we have. He's never made any kind of threatening moves and is very calm with being handled.
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11-11-13, 11:26 PM
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Re: New Here (advise please?)
Russians are great pets if you can provide the space. They can get up to 6 feet+ and are pretty active snakes. They require cooler temps(70-82f) so if you don't live in an area that gets too hot they'd be a great choice.
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11-12-13, 05:37 AM
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Re: New Here (advise please?)
Just tossing this out there....first you mention stuff about your wife but in the next bit mention the snakes you like personally. If you stick to keeping the wife happy and ok with your snake I would drop getting what you want for what she wants. Show her some snakes and see what she thinks. I would also recomend a ball python. Get your snake of choice in a few months. The body movement of some snakes is what freaks some people out. Balls do not move in that ribbony sorta colubrids movement. I find this is why many people are less afraid of bigger slower snakes. Anyway....trust me and get your wife a snake first.
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11-14-13, 11:00 AM
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Re: New Here (advise please?)
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Originally Posted by Terranaut
Just tossing this out there....first you mention stuff about your wife but in the next bit mention the snakes you like personally. If you stick to keeping the wife happy and ok with your snake I would drop getting what you want for what she wants. Show her some snakes and see what she thinks. I would also recomend a ball python. Get your snake of choice in a few months. The body movement of some snakes is what freaks some people out. Balls do not move in that ribbony sorta colubrids movement. I find this is why many people are less afraid of bigger slower snakes. Anyway....trust me and get your wife a snake first.
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Firstly Welcome to the forum and back to herping!!
I have to agree with this, I love corns and they were my first snake too , ( I was a convert from the hell no I dont want a snake in the house crowd), but when you first take them out and they are all writhing and moving it definately made me nervous as a noobie. If you get a ball Id go with a yearling though as hatchlings can be VERY nippy. Good luck I hope things go well.
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11-12-13, 05:45 AM
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Re: New Here (advise please?)
I think most girls like boas cause they are "pretty". If you don't want to house a big animal look into the dwarves. There are many different kinds available.
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11-12-13, 03:21 PM
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Re: New Here (advise please?)
I have to agree about letting him pick the snake out! Take some time to flip through videos of snakes with him, look up pages on their behavior, have him determine a few snakes he'd be okay with. Personally, I'd say the smaller the snake, the better. If it does bite, realizing that it's not going to do much damage at all is reassuring! But he's going to be less likely to freak about it if he has some say in the snake.
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