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09-19-13, 04:32 PM
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Scaleless Ball Python???
So BHB has the world 1st scaleless ball python and so far it looks really cool but wont it probably have some crazy shed problems?
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09-19-13, 04:33 PM
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???
I wouldn't call it a world's first. There was another before this a few years ago. It's dead though from what I've read.
Also, it's not out of the egg yet so I reserve judgement on it until see it thrive.
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09-19-13, 04:41 PM
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???
First one was called the derma ball. It was like 80 % or so scaleless, I don't know if its dead or if someone bought it and it was never heard from again, but yea....Is the new one 100% scaleless?
Edit: To answer your question, we already have scaleless corns, ratsnakes, beardies, etc. So I don't think it would necessarily have any issues with shedding. But like Aaron said, there is nothing to say the super form is lethal and won't last out of the egg except for a few hours / days...
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09-19-13, 04:43 PM
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???
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Originally Posted by smy_749
First one was called the derma ball. It was like 80 % or so scaleless, I don't know if its dead or if someone bought it and it was never heard from again, but yea....Is the new one 100% scaleless?
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No clue. It's STILL IN THE EGG! lol...
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09-19-13, 04:56 PM
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
No clue. It's STILL IN THE EGG! lol...
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derp. hahahaha touche
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09-19-13, 05:24 PM
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???
The hets had scales missing from their heads. Brian is hoping it proves to be co-dom and creates a fully scaleless snake.
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10-04-13, 04:43 AM
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???
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Originally Posted by Stewjoe
The hets had scales missing from their heads. Brian is hoping it proves to be co-dom and creates a fully scaleless snake.
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Clearly animal welfare is not a priority here.
Defend the man if you want, but if someone was intentionally trying to breed skinless dogs or cats with no feet, they would be locked up.
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09-19-13, 05:27 PM
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???
I wonder if they have an egg tooth...
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09-19-13, 05:31 PM
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???
So basically nothing is known about the genetics at the moment....
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09-19-13, 05:39 PM
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???
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Originally Posted by KORBIN5895
So basically nothing is known about the genetics at the moment....
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According to Brian, it is a codominate morph and the 100% scaleless is the super form. Thats just speculation although from the pictures of the egg it does look like it will be 100% scaleless..
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09-19-13, 06:47 PM
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???
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Originally Posted by smy_749
According to Brian, it is a codominate morph and the 100% scaleless is the super form. Thats just speculation although from the pictures of the egg it does look like it will be 100% scaleless..
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Doesn't mean we can be certain of the genetics.
It might not survive either. Just like other "super forms".
Also, it's an accomplishment if it does prove genetic and that's neat in it's own right but I don't want anything that has increased health concerns that may affect it's quality of life.
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09-19-13, 07:20 PM
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???
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Originally Posted by Aaron_S
Doesn't mean we can be certain of the genetics.
It might not survive either. Just like other "super forms".
Also, it's an accomplishment if it does prove genetic and that's neat in it's own right but I don't want anything that has increased health concerns that may affect it's quality of life.
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Say it does survive, what has the breeder actually accomplished? It's not like he really did anything special.
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09-19-13, 07:29 PM
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???
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Say it does survive, what has the breeder actually accomplished? It's not like he really did anything special.
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He's accomplished making all the kids and ignorant uneducated hicks that watch his YouTube show jump for joy at the promise of perhaps making millions of dollars breeding ball pythons (since he says it's so easy to make it rich).
Rob
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09-19-13, 05:31 PM
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???
Anything to make him money, he'll do. Those people don't give a **** about the health of snakes. Pariahs in the reptile community IMO.
Rob
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09-19-13, 05:32 PM
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Re: Scaleless Ball Python???
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Originally Posted by Pure Boa
Anything to make him money, he'll do. Those people don't give a **** about the health of snakes. Pariahs in the reptile community IMO.
Rob
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