Organic feeder mice?

cagedbirdsingin · 04-13-13, 10:50 PM

I tried to make this post earlier, but I guess it didn't work.

I'm getting my first snake in about three months and I'm getting all of my supplies together!

You are what you eat, right?

I keep pet rats and actually run my own business making and selling premium organic diets for pet rodents. I like being able to control what goes into my animals and removing the things that shouldn't be there like unnatural ingredients, additives, and the dreaded GMO.

I don't want these things going into my future snake, either. I was wondering if anyone sells feeders raised "organically". It makes sense to me, though I can see how it wouldn't to many others.

Of course, this is something that I could do myself with my own organic diet, but I was just wondering if there is anyone out there that uses these practices to make sure that their snakes get the best food possible. I don't want GMO in any of my pets.

Terranaut · 04-14-13, 04:22 AM

Unless you grow your own food from seeds produced by the last batch and meat that only eats from your farm, you eat gmo. My rat supplier uses a quality/premium food but I doubt it's 100% organic or certified gmo free. I don't ensure my dogs food is gmo free organic but I do feed her the best food available. So I don't see myself ever considering anything other than my current choice.

KORBIN5895 · 04-14-13, 05:26 AM

I have never seen mice labeled as organic. What is gmo?

Starbuck · 04-14-13, 06:03 AM

from a cost perspective, i am unwilling to pay much more than i already am for frozen feeders (about 1$/mouse, cheaper at an expo). Unless your organic mice were at the same price point, i probably wouldn't consider it.

Hannibalcanibal · 04-14-13, 07:01 AM

GMO? what is wrong with a gmo? You know they are not toxic, and if grown right can be organic.... right?

That aside, Unless you plan on growing the rodents on your own organic diet and doing everything yourself, for ONE snake, i doubt that you are going to get anywhere.

Also, snakes have been in captivity eating frozen mice prepared in the exact same way for god knows how long, so i doubt that it would do any harm... trust me, if there was something wrong with frozen mice, a lot of the VERY knowledgeable people on here would not feed them, except some do feed live, which is an equally valid choice, although they usually have the same diet as the mass-produced frozen ones.

It's up to you, but if you do decide to breed your own, be warned that you will have way too many way too fast, and will need to sell a lot of them..... and kill them yourself, which may be hard for you since you own pet rats.

Starbuck · 04-14-13, 07:04 AM

Korbin; genetically modified organism or its products.

KORBIN5895 · 04-14-13, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbuck

Korbin; genetically modified organism or its products.

Aren't most grains genetically modified now?

Hannibalcanibal · 04-14-13, 07:07 AM

Jeebus, a lot of pets are now, too- look on the internet or even a local pet shop, and you will find gmo axies, fish, and other things.....

Starbuck · 04-14-13, 08:22 AM

Korbin, virtually all :P Depending on your definition of genetically modified... so are most of our dogs, cats, fish, snakes (corn and ball morphs!!!!!).... I think the OP probably means grains etc which are carrying genes from other species in order to boost pesticide/pest resistance, production, hardiness, etc.
Like Terranaut said, unless you are growing your seeds generation to generation, they are GMO.

erichillkeast · 04-14-13, 08:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Starbuck

Korbin, virtually all :P Depending on your definition of genetically modified... so are most of our dogs, cats, fish, snakes (corn and ball morphs!!!!!).... I think the OP probably means grains etc which are carrying genes from other species in order to boost pesticide/pest resistance, production, hardiness, etc.
Like Terranaut said, unless you are growing your seeds generation to generation, they are GMO.

Genetically modified dogs, cats fish and snakes??? Where did you get that from?

Hannibalcanibal · 04-14-13, 08:49 AM

There is a massive difference between selectively bred (dog, cat, fish, etc), to genetically modified... and unless it's modded to make a pesticide, (which is not done in most parts of the world, and it is not something you will be able to find), it is O.K. GMO's can be organic, and organic can be GMO.

mykee · 04-14-13, 10:44 AM

Why do people constantly feel the need to reinvent the wheel?
I use Mazuri, always will. It's magnificent and whether it is organic or GMO, I could frankly care less; it is a premium food that gives the rodents optimal nutrition. I feel 99% of breeders feel the same as I do.
Good luck though...

KORBIN5895 · 04-14-13, 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mykee

Why do people constantly feel the need to reinvent the wheel?
I use Mazuri, always will. It's magnificent and whether it is organic or GMO, I could frankly care less; it is a premium food that gives the rodents optimal nutrition. I feel 99% of breeders feel the same as I do.
Good luck though...

Couldn't.....

cagedbirdsingin · 04-14-13, 12:18 PM

A simple "no" would have sufficed.

Terranaut · 04-14-13, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cagedbirdsingin

A simple "no" would have sufficed.

Seriously?? People took the time to answer your question in depth and correctly and you think "no" would have been better?
Maybe "thanks glad I didn't waste my time/effort on this " would have sufficed.