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04-02-12, 06:40 PM
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I want to go find this guy
Rex vs. Squirrel - YouTube First there is no way This sav caught this poor squirrel and second the way he drags the Lizard and third I cant believe he fed this poor guy this squirrel.. He needs to get reported
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04-02-12, 06:44 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
That video got brought up once before.
I can't go through those youtube videos anymore, there are way way too many cases of Savannah Monitor neglect all over the place on there.
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04-02-12, 06:50 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
I really am getting tired of us broadcasting animal abuse and sick peoples videos......
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04-04-12, 05:28 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
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I really am getting tired of us broadcasting animal abuse and sick peoples videos......
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It doesn't do any good to ignore it and pretend it doesn't happen. It might do some good to discuss it and hopefully educate peole.
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04-04-12, 06:03 PM
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Diesel the pumpkin killer
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Re: I want to go find this guy
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It doesn't do any good to ignore it and pretend it doesn't happen. It might do some good to discuss it and hopefully educate peole.
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Yeah I know.. as I stated earlier in the thread I was just being pissy.. lol
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04-02-12, 07:21 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
Yes, but if you remember, I made the rule of no embedding, and we all agreed that it was acceptable to post a link, that on can voluntarily click, or chose not to.
Actually, I am rather pleased that through education people can now tell the difference between a "cool monitor video" and a bad monitor video.
Many people would have though a Sav eating a squirrel was cool before coming here and learning otherwise.
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04-03-12, 07:09 AM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
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Yes, but if you remember, I made the rule of no embedding, and we all agreed that it was acceptable to post a link, that on can voluntarily click, or chose not to.
Actually, I am rather pleased that through education people can now tell the difference between a "cool monitor video" and a bad monitor video.
Many people would have though a Sav eating a squirrel was cool before coming here and learning otherwise.
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I know and I understand.. I was a little hot headed about seeing something off the forum a little while before I posted that and I guess I was more upset than I thought.
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04-02-12, 08:01 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
Some things I noticed in the vid.
That is a good sized adult sav. It is actually in very good physical shape. Does not look like the usual super fat sav. It is quite possible that it actually did catch that squirrel. Why does that seem so impossible?
I do not see this vid being anymore cruel than someone showing a monitor eating a dead rat or mouse.
I really do not see a big problem with this vid to be honest. It is obviously not the lizards main diet. It was most likely a one off thing.
Is it a "cool" vid? That depends. If the sav actually did catch the squirrel on its own and ate it, then yeah, I would say its a cool vid. If it was killed prior by the owner, than no, its not a cool vid, but not a particularly bad one neither.
Truth be told, if one of my varanids caught a squirrel and started to eat it, I would record it as well.
I actually have an old vid of my first sav RUNNING after, catching, killing, and eating a 3 foot garter snake it came across in a penned off section in my yard when I lived with my parents.
To the OP, what was wrong with the way the lizard was picked up?
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04-03-12, 07:52 AM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
There is no way that lizard caught him.. He barely moved he walked right in and grabbed it
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04-03-12, 08:28 AM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
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There is no way that lizard caught him.. He barely moved he walked right in and grabbed it
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I think that was brought up in the previous conversation, the squirrel was either already dead or very sick.
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04-03-12, 03:36 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
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There is no way that lizard caught him.. He barely moved he walked right in and grabbed it
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When a monitor sees a food item, their instincs kick in. Have you ever seen a varanid actually hunt? It is a sight to be seen, thats for sure. That lizard is very capable of catching and killing a squirrel. There are other factors that could have been at play other than it being already dead or sick.
You think that this lizard is incapable of catching a squirrel. What are you basing this on exactly?
Why would the person filming it lie and why would the others in the vid go with it? It just makes no sense.
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04-03-12, 06:30 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
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When a monitor sees a food item, their instincs kick in. Have you ever seen a varanid actually hunt?.
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I have, and it's awesome.
They can snap a spine or crush a skull in a split second. 
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04-04-12, 07:46 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
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Originally Posted by Gregg M
When a monitor sees a food item, their instincs kick in. Have you ever seen a varanid actually hunt? It is a sight to be seen, thats for sure. That lizard is very capable of catching and killing a squirrel. There are other factors that could have been at play other than it being already dead or sick.
You think that this lizard is incapable of catching a squirrel. What are you basing this on exactly?
Why would the person filming it lie and why would the others in the vid go with it? It just makes no sense.
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Can You tell me where I said that this Lizard can not catch a squirrel? because I dont remember saying that.
Now You tell me why You say this is real? Are you basing this on fact? Were you there? No I dont think so
Well this certainly was not about anything you are doing. It turned into you saying something was impossible that is actually very possible.
I did not say this was impossible I said this instance was not real so if your going to quote me at least get it right
To the point of you saying It is perectly fine to state your opinion but you should present it as such. Twice in this thread you present your opinion as factual information here. Also don't remember asking you to teach me how to post.... But again I'm sure some way you can explain to me where I asked for you to teach me, because you're so experienced
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04-04-12, 08:01 PM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
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There is no way that lizard caught him.. He barely moved he walked right in and grabbed it
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Actually this is what I said, which obviously does not say He could not have caught it I just said he did not catch this one.... But I guess I should have written IN MY OPINION because I would have thought People would know I was not there and can't prove it
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04-04-12, 05:59 AM
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Re: I want to go find this guy
You believe it may have happened I don't. Deal with it
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