Good start for a distant breeding project??

Boabari89 · 12-24-11, 05:13 PM

So as you know xmas is almost here and im all done shopping for eveyone except myself! To insure a happy new year I went ahead made a couple steps in order too get.the ball rolling. I recently found a young pair from a aug litter of a male hypo motley x female sunglow. The results were sunglows and anery. Now im getting a normal dh albino.66%anery male and I just found a nice hypo female het for albino and also 66%anery of around the same age! I know this will be waaay down the line but the snakes are beautiful and at the right price why not purchase my pets now and decide four years later wether or not too breed? Im wondering what my possible outcomes would be?? Any and all help is much appreciated! Happy holidays!

**millertime89** · 12-27-11, 02:51 PM

I hate possible hets...
to get aneries from that pairing I'm pretty sure the parents would have to be het anery unless I'm missing something there. I'll address the genetics in a bit.

**millertime89** · 12-27-11, 03:13 PM

I covered this in I think it was Kevin's thread (Korbin) you can't have a 66% possible double het albino/anery (possible het snow) Its 44% pos DH, OR 66% pos het anery 66% pos het albino. When adding pos het to pos het if they're both the same % pos het that doesn't make then 66% pos DH. You have to multiply them because there's a 66% chance that it has one gene, then only a 66% chance it has the other gene. If it was 100% het albino and 66% het anery THEN it would 66% chance het snow. But I wouldn't label it as 66% pos het snow.

/rant

**millertime89** · 12-27-11, 03:16 PM

unless that female hypo het albino 66% pos het anery is already of breeding age, you'll have to wait a bit longer for her to reach breeding age than your male.
to clarify:
the male is normal 100% het albino and 66% het anery
the female is hypo 100% het albino 66% het anery
is that correct?

Boabari89 · 12-28-11, 12:14 AM

Yes that is correct 100% albino and 66% anery. Thank you for helping me out with this. I just want too make sure im making a well informed decision here. You seem too be the only one willing too help me on this

dshin963 · 12-28-11, 12:18 AM

Ughhh genetics haha

dshin963 · 12-28-11, 12:18 AM

I agree I hate possible hets...

Boabari89 · 12-28-11, 01:19 PM

Hey guys I just got another offer from a different breeder who said he.will give me a 5month pair of albino female and hypo male both 50% for anery. Now I would assume 66 is better than 50% correct? Nut the albino x hypo combo seems like better odds to me. What do you guys think I should do? Hypo female x normal male 66% or albino female x hypp male 50%

youngster · 12-28-11, 01:21 PM

I think you should find a pair with dh not ph

Too risky IMO

**lady_bug87** · 12-28-11, 01:28 PM

hahaha poor Kyle is going to pull his hair out with these Boa Genetics hahaha

**millertime89** · 12-28-11, 03:33 PM

I hate possible hets.
Shall I say it again?
I hate possible hets.
When I get into breeding, all possible hets will be sold for normal prices or auctioned off or something like that, some people will get lucky and some will be disappointed.

What strain of albino are they? Kahl and Sharp strain bred together do not produce Albinos. Assuming they're of the same strain:
Normal het albino het anery x hypo het albino het anery
9/32: 66% ph albino 66% ph anery (44% snow if you wish)
3/32: anery 66% het albino
3/32: albino 66% het anery
9/32: hypo 66% ph albino 66% ph anery (44% snow)
3/32: anery hypo 66% het albino
3/32: albino hypo (sunglow) 66% het anery
1/32: albino hypo (sunglow) anery

IF you're lucky, that's what you'll get, odds are one or the other won't be het anery which just means you won't get anything visible anery and you'll get a bunch of 50% possible het aneries.

**lady_bug87** · 12-28-11, 05:23 PM

lol you're such a good sport Kyle dealing with poss hets

question though I may sound stupid is the only difference between Possible hets and definite hets the fact that with poss hets you really dont know but with definite hets you know for certain?

like If I bred my albino with a normal I would het 50% het for Albino and it would be a definite het right?

**millertime89** · 12-28-11, 06:51 PM

they would all be het albino if you bred a normal with an albino.
possible hets you won't know until you've bred with either a displayed recessive or a known het.
you get possible hets when you breed 2 100% hets (that's how you get 66% possible hets) or a het to a normal (50% possible het) or some other variation there in.

**lady_bug87** · 12-28-11, 07:16 PM

thanks Kyle you're my genetics hero hahaha

**millertime89** · 12-28-11, 07:54 PM

I have Stephan and all of the retic breeders to thank who are teaching me as I go.