Boas: het albino on het snow

KORBIN5895 · 12-18-11, 09:53 AM

Hey I am looking at trading my atb for for a female bci 66% het snow. I currently have a male bci het albino. Percentages aside what would I get if I breed a het albino with a het snow?

KORBIN5895 · 12-18-11, 11:28 PM

Bump. Any ideas? Where is Kyle?

**lady_bug87** · 12-18-11, 11:32 PM

hmmm I have no idea I am terrible with genetics just helping bump it along

alessia55 · 12-18-11, 11:33 PM

I tried finding a genetic wizard for boas like there is for ball pythons but couldn't find anything for you

Hopefully someone on here will be able to tell you

KORBIN5895 · 12-18-11, 11:39 PM

Thanks ladies! I appreciate the help bumping it along!

**lady_bug87** · 12-19-11, 07:30 AM

if they're both pos hets wouldnt you get normals who carry 2 het genes? unless they each have the same het gene and then wont you get half normals and half whatever the het is provided the hets are actually hets?

and then in the second generation you would get visual snows or whatever with a het Albino

I'm so clueless

KORBIN5895 · 12-19-11, 08:37 AM

So am I.if something is hey snow wouldn't it also be het albino? I really couldn't care less exactly what they are but I was thinking albino is possible. I really assume the are regular Boas. Just can't trust those that sell hets.

or maybe its better to say I won't get my hope set on them being het.

alessia55 · 12-19-11, 09:54 AM

Visually they should all be normals with het x%% x%% etc as far as I see it since they're both hets

**lady_bug87** · 12-19-11, 10:20 AM

^^ yea but I think if you have 2 proven hets of the same gene you get 1/4 of that gene

KORBIN5895 · 12-19-11, 10:24 AM

Yes but isn't a snow boa a morph on albino? Like an albino with no yellow?

alessia55 · 12-19-11, 10:32 AM

Founds some stuff....

about snow boas

Quote:

Types of Colombian T-Negative Albino Boas:
Snow (albino and anery):
The first snow boa was produced by Pete Kahl in 1996.

Source.

Quote:

Snow Boa
Genetics: Color mutation - simple recessive.
A snow boas is a double simple recessive (Albino & Anery)

Source.

Maybe that helps a bit

I know hardly anything about boas btw, just my googling

**millertime89** · 12-19-11, 05:34 PM

snow is, as alessia pointed out, het albino and het anery, its labeled het snow because its easier and breeders make assumptions about the people looking to buy them.
when crossing a 100% het albino with a 66% het snow you won't get any snows, and there's a 66% chance that you'll get some albinos. I personally hate dealing with possible hets because you can get screwed, but its something breeders have to deal with because it results in the fastest way back to the desired crossing. (more on that next post)
I also don't think its 66%. Its a double recessive possible het, you get that with het x het, so a het snow x het snow will get you (of the normal appearing snakes) 1/16 normal, 2/16 het albino, 2/16 het anery, and 4/16 het snow, so that's 4/9 or 44% chance het snow.

**lady_bug87** · 12-19-11, 05:38 PM

^^^^ my god you're so good at that I have no idea about genetics

**millertime89** · 12-19-11, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by lady_bug87

^^^^ my god you're so good at that I have no idea about genetics

thanks, I'm getting better the more I read, Stephan is helping a ton and there are still some people out there that are WAY better than me and I still get it wrong some times. I use a genetic calculator to help as well, some people can do it in their head.

**millertime89** · 12-19-11, 05:39 PM

to get visible snows this is the fastest way to do it. The numbers in parenthesis () represent the chance that you'll get that outcome. 4/16 is a 25% chance that you'll get that morph.
albino x anery = 100% het snow (16/16)
het snow x het snow = 44% chance het snows (9/16), 66% chance albino het anery (3/16), 66% chance anery het albino (3/16), snow (1/16)