Walless enclosure

[RB420]

i dont own a chameleon. i was just looking around for some info on some when i ran across this cage if you can call it that..... is this a good idea or would they get out?

http://www.chameleoncondo.net/pages/733523/index.htm

[HeatherRose]

Neat! I don't see how humidity would be kept up though... plus if you have a cat, it would mean bad news.

[Manitoban Herps]

The reptiriums are no good if u have cats either

[labomb]

those are cool. you would probably need to keep a room humidifier going unless you lived in a warmer climate. definately wouldn't want a cat or dog on the loose. or a snake. wouldn't have to worry about house flies or cockroaches.

[roocat71]

Do a search on this forum and others for "chameleoncondo" and you will find a billion reasons not to get one. Not a fan of reptariums either due to broken zippers, bad visibility, cracked pvc posts.

-roo

[galad]

lol. I personaly didnt like the idea of reptariums either but now after having my female in one for about 4 months I find them quite good. With proper lighting i dont find it that bad for visability.
As long as you are gentle with it you should not get any broken zippers. How did you manage to crack the pvc? I dont see how something like that could happen very easily.

anyhoo, if you dont have much for carpentry skills the reptarium is the best way to go in my opinion. Not only are they cheap they come in sizes from small to around six feet tall.

peace all

ws

[roocat71]

I read a few threads with people complaining about cracked pvc. Not sure how they did it – maybe a fixture fell on it. I never personally owned one but I have seen how they can get after a while. I don’t like the aluminum screen cages either. I don’t like anything I guess. I ended up building my own out wood and vinyl coated hardware cloth. I think the aluminum is the lesser of the two evils. Feeders can eat through the reptariums as well – a roach would have no problem and probably be able to do it fairly quickly. A small lobster roach ate through some plastic pet screening I had over a container over night. Crickets would take much longer but eventually they would get out. Seems like high maintenance too; probably need to keep the zipper area clean at all times. I could go on but what’s the point. I just kept finding faults in both types and a large amount of the long term, experienced keepers built their own. So after avoiding doing so, I finally did it and I really don’t have any carpentry skills. It came out well and if I had to do it again I wouldn’t have changed much. Sorry … kind of a rant there.

Anywho those condos wont contain a cham and you will need to cham proof your house or apartment. The room humidity will have to be controlled some how, no horizontal movement at all really with them. Totally forget it if you have a cat or dog. On and on.

-roo

[galad]

ya i can see where your comming from i geusse. But i dont really beleave feeders should be kept in there long enough to eat through the screen. Not only is eating through the screen a probleme but they can cause some pretty harsh damage to your chams as well
I remove any uneaten ones everynight. I would recomend the same to everyone else.
I personally think the mesh is a lot better then screen if you look after the feeders. Otherwise with screen you are running the risk of lossing nails or toes.
I also dont think it is very good to turn people away from a product you have not personaly used. some people you hear these bad things from are just extremely careless in my opinion.

peace


ws

[roocat71]

galad - totally agree with everything you have stated. Some feeders can hide really well and are difficult to find depending on the foliage in the cage – especially at night. Dam roaches are crafty. I understand your point about discouraging things I have never owned. But I still have a big fat “I told you so” in my pocket in regards to reptariums. Which at some point is going to come out. To each their own though.

-roo