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02-10-05, 07:35 PM
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Pacmans
How does everyone like Pacman frogs? I have the oppurtunity to pick up a free albino pacman and was wondering what people thought of them? He looks pretty cool and the care sheets definatly don't show it to be any more difficult than what I'm used to.
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02-10-05, 08:08 PM
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Also does anyone have any care sheets to reccomend? Some I see vary.
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02-10-05, 09:03 PM
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i don't have a pacman... but there is some at the store i work at and i also have a pixie frog... somewhat like a giant pacman i guess u could say? and i LOVE them.. most of them are great eaters, they look awesome (especially those albino's) and very fun to watch them hop around with there chubby little body's.. lol. and for care sheets i find this one sums it up best http://www.repticzone.com/caresheets/305.html . if it's free i would deffinitly not miss the opurtunity to try it out !
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02-10-05, 10:01 PM
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Yeah I saw that care sheet, wish there was some more detail but if that's basicly it then I guess it works. I definatly think I'll try it out.
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02-10-05, 11:43 PM
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Join Date: Feb-2005
Location: western ohio
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Here is a good care sheet. it has alot of good info on it
http://groups.msn.com/HerpWorld
enjoy
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02-11-05, 10:56 AM
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Though the caresheet that Davey posted was relatively decent... I have a few concerns with some of the information.
First, I think that 88 degrees is ridiculously warm for these frogs. I keep mine in the low 70's and have done so for years. My frog room never goes above 80 degrees, and it generally stays in the low-to-mid 70's. Also, I disagree with feeding adults fish a mice. Thse frogs have an amazing predisposition for obesity, as they are fairly inactive frogs. Plus, it has been documented that many captive frogs fed on a diet primarily of vertebrates develop corneal opacities which of course ultimately results in blindness. All your horned frogs need is dusted, and well-fed crickets... that is all that mine have been fed for years.
Here is some information from one of my posts a few threads ago on setting up horned frogs:
10 gallon tank
Eco-earth/bedabeast/coco-husk fiber substrate... keep it at least 3 inches deep for an adult frog.
A water dish that they can get their entire body into.. but not so deep that they would drown. Just make sure the water level does not go too far past their eyes. And make sure you either use dechlorinater for fish tanks that gets rid of chloramine as well (repti-safe and the hagen brands do both)..... or simply use spring water for the water dish and misting. Stay away from distilled water in the dish.
That is basically it for the essential necessities.... other than of course crickets, and a GOOD calcium supplement WITH vitamin D3 ... like fine grade Rep-Cal. Stay away from crap like zoo-med supplements, flukers supplments, or any of that crap. I would only recommend rep-cal.
If you want to spruce the tank up a bit..... you can add a few slabs of bork bark sticking on a 45 degree angle from the substrate.. they create a naturalistic sort of cave... and look nice.. though a hide is not really necessary for these frogs as they bury themselves anyway. Plus, you can also add OAK leaves from a pesticide free source. These give a beautiful and naturalistic look and are safe if eaten.. though they are easily spit out.
For plants...... you can use pothos or philodendrons.. both are bulletproof, grow well under low light, and can be potted directly n the eco-earth...or left in the pots if you prefer. Make sure that if you plant them directly in the subsrtate that you get rid off all the soil around the roots by rinsing them off.
Make sure you *do not* put an incandescent basking lamp or anything of the sort above the tank. Frogs are not reptiles... and wth the exception of waxy monkey frogs, amphibians do not need to bask!
If your house is kept in the low 70's and falls to high 60s at night.... the frog will be fine. If your house is cool... use a 5 gallon undertank heater.... but put it on the *side* o the tank rather than the bottom... as these frogs burrow to *escape* the heat.
This is an easy to maintain setup, that looks fabulous, and is fairly inexpensive.
All this said, a rubbermaid with eco-earth and a water dish will suit these frogs well. They are fairly hearty frogs, and thrive with minimal work.
Good luck with horned frogs if you choose to get some, they are fun to keep.
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02-11-05, 11:05 AM
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Location: Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
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Double J,
I'm setting up my tank as well for my new pacman. My room stays consistently between 72 and 78. Would it be fine to leave my frog at that temp with no supplemental heating? It's about the size of a quarter now. How deep should my substrate be?
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02-11-05, 03:10 PM
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Double J thanks for that info that's about the best info I've been able to find and it didn't require the hours of searching I've done. I really think this will be quite fun. They are cute little buggers.
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02-11-05, 08:10 PM
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Location: Waterloo
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Quote:
Originally posted by Oni5000
Double J,
I'm setting up my tank as well for my new pacman. My room stays consistently between 72 and 78. Would it be fine to leave my frog at that temp with no supplemental heating? It's about the size of a quarter now. How deep should my substrate be?
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No need for supplemental heating in my opinion. That's within the range I keep mine... and I use no supplemental heating whatsoever... aside from what may come from their fluorescent light... which does perhaps one or two degrees of difference max. As for substrate depth.... I would go about an inch-and-a-half deep while he is still small. Though I doubt a horned frog that size will burrow all the way down often, a deeper substrate seems to help keep the humidity higher.
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