What comes first?

[meow_mix450]

Hey

O.K. as most of you know I have eggs being incubated(nosy be panther). My question is, what comes first sweating or collasping? And do they have to sweat? Because one of the eggs has collasped. Ill most pictures are soon as possible

Meow

[meow_mix450]

This si the egg that collasped, but when i opened it to take a picture the collaspness was, I think it was moving around inside. So i quickly snapped a few shots and closed it(probly was cold)

This is the first clutch and they have grown and is a lot bigger then i have started

When they were first laid not sure if you can tell the difference

This is the second clutch and the container I'm using



Meow

[Manitoban Herps]

I hope they hatch buddy!

[clint545]

That's quite the treasure chest Best of luck with them!

[CarlC]

Sometimes they sweat really fast. If the egg has collasped and you don't see one of the ends slit I would open the egg. The slit is the deciding factor.
Slit means a live baby. No slit and it is almost always a still born.

Carl

[meow_mix450]

How do you slit?

Meow

[CarlC]

The baby will slit the egg on its own with its egg tooth.

Carl

[meow_mix450]

Ya, i understand that part, I was wondering if I was to open the egg my self(knowing that its a still born) how would I do it? Sorry I was in a rush for school so i didnt explain what i meant lol. I'll try and get mroe pictures so then maybe you can determind if i should or not(opening the egg)

Meow

Meow

[meow_mix450]

This is to show the collasping of the egg, each day its collasping more and more, no beads of water either

This one is just to show if you think it will slit on its own or not.


Thanks for helping me out here

Meow

[CarlC]

I use a brand new razor blade or exacto knife. You will find that you will be able to pinch a piece of the egg. You don't want to go to deep. Just enough to cut the shell. It will be rubbery. Make the slit about half across the egg. Now you should be able to pull the sides to open it the rest of the way.

I can't tell from the pic if there is a slit or not. It is not uncommon to get still borns this late. I have always found it to be related to incubation temps. The baby just does not have the strength to rub through the shell and ends up drowning.

Carl

[meow_mix450]

Thanks, umm do you think I should give it a few more days before I got for a cut?

Meow

[CarlC]

I would open it. If the baby was still alive atleast it wouldn't drown.

It is a baby that should never be bred! You should make sure you have a way to keep it seperated. You don't want any problems passed on in the bloodline.

Carl

[meow_mix450]

alright thanks, well no more incubation next time. My second clutch was not incubated and there still doing just as great as the ones in the incubator. So for those who are breeding, dont incubate just through them in the closet or somewhere dark. Umm I havn't made up my decsion yet, so I'll let you guys know what i'll do thanks again

Meow

[Manitoban Herps]

I wouldn't risk it.

[Manitoban Herps]

But carl is the cham expert