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11-13-04, 05:31 AM
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Join Date: Oct-2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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I did it!
I ordered myself a CB Salvator!
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Boids Unlimited
0.1.0 Burmese Pythons [Mitch]
0.0.1 Green Iguana [Cheech]
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11-13-04, 11:04 AM
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Congrats. Cant wait to see pics!
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11-13-04, 12:05 PM
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Location: Lancaster PA
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remember to post some pics, hope you know what ur getting urself into. Where did you buy it?
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11-13-04, 12:53 PM
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Location: central PA
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So who bred it, recently someone asked about them elsewhere...
There are very very few people breeding them like so many other inexpensive imports. Of course so many businesses just call them CB to get them sold faster or ask a higher price. Proexotics had a few at one time (been a few years), they came from "Bloodbat". Steve Blaine might be breeding them, not sure though, hes in Canada.
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11-13-04, 01:33 PM
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I ordered him/her from LLL Reptile.
I am still waiting for a final confirmatioon though.
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11-13-04, 02:49 PM
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Location: Lancaster PA
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on there web site it says nothen about there waters being cb...
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11-13-04, 04:31 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2003
Location: toronto
Age: 37
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nguyen you say to boids unlimited that you hope he knows what hes getting into.
You make it seem liike getting a water monitor is a terrible thing to do.
Yes some people are incapable of taking care of these incredible animals but I am sure he "knows what hes getting into"
I have a gorgeous 3 foot almost 4 foot water monitor and with all do respect it miight be the most amazing animal that i own.
And im sure boids unlimited will take care oof this animal to the best of his abiliities and Im sure he will be fine and will enjoy every moment with this incredible giant.
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0.0.2 Spectacled Caiman
0.1 Savannah Monitors
1.0 Burmese Python
1.0 African Rock python
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11-13-04, 09:04 PM
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Location: Toronto
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Dean, theres nothing wrong with what he said.
Waters get huge, yes they can be kept, but being kept and being kept properly are two huge differences. Sure, you can supply the monitor with tonnes of space, but is the space useful? Sure you can feed your animal, but are you feeding it enough?
Most people have no idea how much monitors can and will eat. My biggest albig will eat 10-15 rats/mice/chicks in ONE sitting. This albig shares an enclosure with another one that eats almost the same, and the enclosure is 10 feet by 6 feet wide and 6 feet tall. Oh, I didnt mention the near 2000 pounds of dirt in the enclosure which I had to remove repeatedly until I had the "right" "usuable" dirt. It's ALOT of work. These aren't bearded dragons.
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11-13-04, 09:30 PM
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Join Date: May-2004
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LLL reptile sells imports....... Good luck!
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11-13-04, 11:31 PM
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Join Date: Oct-2004
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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I have been reading up on monitors and such for over 2 years now. I have had Niles (babys) and adult Savnna Monitors.
I do not know what I'm getting into size wise...nobody does TRUTHFULLY until they own the animal. But care wise, I know fully what I am getting into.
If all goes well, he/she will arrive late afternoon on Wednesday.
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11-13-04, 11:47 PM
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Join Date: May-2004
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Post some pics!
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11-14-04, 10:11 AM
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Join Date: Dec-2003
Location: Lancaster PA
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dean: I think water are one of the best monitors out there if you have the money and space for them. I was just saying that I hope that BU has the time money and a large space to house it when it reaches adult hood.
And like V.hb's albigs, large monitors will tend to eat A LOT.
BU how long did you keep you Savannas for?
Reading and keeping are two different things...
I'm not trying to piss anyone offf so don't take me wrong...
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11-14-04, 10:31 AM
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Join Date: Jul-2004
Location: Americuh
Age: 43
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in my experience...
With my togianus, they are fed every day, and both the male and female eat about 8 adult mice each. I did the math, and it will cost about $800 bucks a year to feed the both of them, let alone the expenses for heating their large cage. Fortunately, V. s. togianus stays smaller than most mainland subspecies, supposedly reaching only 4.5'. Those of you with normal salvators, keep in mind their sheer size, their massive diet requirements, and most of all, the room that they need to properly live a healthy life.. The enclosure I house my togs in would not be anything near sufficient for an adult V. s. s. In all honestly, a big animal like that needs an enclosure the size of a bedroom, at least.. I would go bigger in all honestly, if it were mine...
It's the same thing with croc monitors. Too many people buy them, knowing that they get huge, but they fail to truly understand the housing necessities of these animals... With an animal that is 8' long, you will need something larger than your average bedroom, to give him enough space to move around and excercise properly...keep in mind these are monitors, which do a great deal of traveling in any given day, due to their high metabolism...
So just understand what you are getting into... Here's a pic of what your beast WILL become... so keep this in mind....
cheers, have a great day,
bob
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11-14-04, 10:42 AM
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Join Date: Jul-2004
Location: Americuh
Age: 43
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one other thing....
boids unlimited,
You said that you have kept Niles before... What happened to the one/s you were keeping? as they reach lengths of 5+ feet... What did you do as far as caging such a large animal? If you still have it that is....
Fish aquariums are for fish, not lizards. Even for a temporary enclosure, they suck... Give them something with floorspace, not an aquarium that is only 12" wide... And the screen top.... screen tops are for hampsters... Reptiles need adequate humidity levels, which screen tops do not/cannot accomodate... Even if it is a hatchling, do you think a hatchling is going to inhabit a 30"x 12" area in the wild? Go with something bigger as a temporary cage, as it is just mean to keep an animal in such tight quarters..
I am not trying to be rude, it just seems that you are not prepared for the committment that you have just gotten yourself into. I have seen many people like thisk, who get such an animal, only to surrender it to a rescue group later on down the line, when the animal gets too large, or doesn't live up to the owner's expectations of being a "pet". All I am saying is you should do a bit more research on salvators, ormonitor husbandry in general... Check out cybersalvator.com, as everyone over on that forum is knowledgeabl, experienced salvator keepers, and can give you some pointers in how to properly care for them, and what to expect from one such beast...
Cheers,
bob
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11-14-04, 12:22 PM
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Join Date: Sep-2003
Location: central PA
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A good point..
You say youve had niles, where are they today? What did you keep them in, if they died how long did you have them?
I ask this because you are jumping into another large species yet couldnt keep another large species that gets smaller. Yes a water can get 6-10 ft plus and weigh from 45-75 or so lbs, yet a good friend of mine had a nile that was 7ft and 27lbs, no little lizard, he sold him to make space.
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