morph/phase of AFT?

Spreeguy · 10-31-03, 11:40 PM

would anyone care to take a stab at what kind of colour phase my new gecko is. If any.

Scratchy is approx. 4 months old.

Spreeguy · 11-01-03, 08:28 PM

Clownfishie · 11-01-03, 10:52 PM

Looks like a normal AFT to me...

Spreeguy · 11-02-03, 01:24 AM

ok, thanx.

I was asking because the colouring is very different than my other AFT's, and almost all the pictures i've seen of similar coloured gecko's was that it was a het for amel.

Edit: P.S. would anyone know a good site that has images of different morphs for AFT's. Leo's are easy to find, but there doesn't seem to be a compiled list of morphs for aft's.

NiagaraReptiles · 11-02-03, 06:31 AM

<center><a href="http://www.niagarareptiles.com"><img src="http://www.varanus.net/niagarareptiles/pics/fattails002-2.jpg"></a> Tangerine Amel and Hets</center>

I think your little guy would fall into the category of a Light Phase or possibly Khaki (assuming that he does look a little darker in the pic than first hand).

Amels come in many different colours. Amels of the type of Fat Tail you have pictures would produce Light Phase Amels. Unfortunately there isn't a way to distinguish Hets from Normals.

<center><a href="http://www.niagarareptiles.com"><img src="http://www.varanus.net/niagarareptiles/pics/fattails005-2.jpg"></a> Tangerine Amel, Light Phase Amel, Tangerine Hets, Khaki Het, Normal Striped.</center>

For more pics you are more than welcome to check out my website (just click one of the images above).

Best wishes,

Spreeguy · 11-02-03, 09:38 AM

Ok... so the only way to know if it is a het for amel, I would have to breed it with either a known het for amel, or an actual amel. Correct?

So what would happen if I breed it with female stripe (assuming scratchy is just a light phase normal)?

Sorry for all the questions, i'm just a newbie.

Thanx again.

**Aaron_S** · 11-03-03, 12:41 AM

then the babies would be het for stripe.

NiagaraReptiles · 11-03-03, 07:10 AM

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Originally posted by Spreeguy
Ok... so the only way to know if it is a het for amel, I would have to breed it with either a known het for amel, or an actual amel. Correct?

Correct. Though het to het breedings don't seem to follow the odds......for me anyway.

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So what would happen if I breed it with female stripe (assuming scratchy is just a light phase normal)?

Aaron is correct, in theory. I'm still not sure if the stripe gene has been proven, though it is thought to be a simple recessive. The problem is that it is a very common, naturally occuring trait and since hets aren't visible, you don't really know what any particular animals' history is.

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Sorry for all the questions, i'm just a newbie.

Thanx again.

Best wishes with your Fat Tails

Zoe · 11-03-03, 07:23 AM

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Aaron is correct, in theory. I'm still not sure if the stripe gene has been proven, though it is thought to be a simple recessive. The problem is that it is a very common, naturally occuring trait and since hets aren't visible, you don't really know what any particular animals' history is.

On a side note, I have my doubts about the stripe gene being recessive - I think it is codominant. The reason for that is that so many afts have stripes. As many as don't, I would say. Not to mention that several normal x striped breedings have produced striped babies for me, at a rougly 50/50 ratio. I'm not saying it's not possible that the normal males and females involved weren't het for striped (because if the stripe IS recessive, it's floating around in a lot of gene pools), but it just seems more of a co-dom trait, IMO.

Zoe

NiagaraReptiles · 11-03-03, 08:18 AM

I'm actually going to play with this a little this year as I have a long term captive striped female and a CB male that I have been able to trace 2 generations back (no stripe in his history). Obviously this won't result in anything conclusive, but it will be interesting non the less

I actually introduced them late last season and did get a few eggs from her. I have held back babies as well (non of which were striped).

It should be a fun year for me as far as Fat Tails go