try looking in large bushes or half submerged trees, i caught a 4 ft water snake in a huge thorn bush last week. i also have luck with pieces of wood, cut sections, planks, anything a snake or salamander could crawl under i would check. just have patience sooner or later you will find them, or they will find you, ihave caught many garters in unexpected places!
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