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06-22-14, 11:16 PM
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Advice for a tub-defensive retic?
Hey guys...I'm back haha. Anyway, I was just wondering if any of you had a good idea of how to safely (and minimally stressful for my snake) handle a tub defensive retic? I started a thread a few months back because she was not eating, but ever since I got her eating again (she eats like a champ now) she's been kinda crazy when I try to get her out of her tub. Just always ready to strike (and sometimes she does) when I go in there. I don't want to stress her out but I need to establish trust and get her calmed down before she gets big and can do real damage. Just looking for any tips from those who have had similar problems with their baby retics...mainly tips on how to get her out as safely as possible. I have been going in first with a hook, to try to start my "tap training" and she doesn't strike at first but as soon as I try to pull her out of her tub, she loses it haha. Any tips/advice would be awesome! Thanks!
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06-23-14, 10:14 AM
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Re: Advice for a tub-defensive retic?
Hook trainijg is really the only way. I use a hook to get the back end out, and then grab them. Once out, puppy dog tame.
Also, some babies are just nippy. Typically the mellow out.
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06-23-14, 10:17 AM
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Re: Advice for a tub-defensive retic?
I would just about guarantee that it's not defensive, just showing typical retic feed response. Start tap training. Every time you bring her out or go in her enclosure, tap her with something. When you feed her, don't tap. Eventually she will learn that being tapped means she's not getting fed. It's actually pretty amazing to see them "turn off".
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06-23-14, 03:50 PM
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Re: Advice for a tub-defensive retic?
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Originally Posted by aaron_cg
Hook trainijg is really the only way. I use a hook to get the back end out, and then grab them. Once out, puppy dog tame.
Also, some babies are just nippy. Typically the mellow out.
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Originally Posted by IW17
I would just about guarantee that it's not defensive, just showing typical retic feed response. Start tap training. Every time you bring her out or go in her enclosure, tap her with something. When you feed her, don't tap. Eventually she will learn that being tapped means she's not getting fed. It's actually pretty amazing to see them "turn off".
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Oh ok that makes sense. This is my first retic so I'm getting used to how they act. She has an even more aggressive feeding response then my Green tree pythons! Well, maybe not more aggressive but I can at least tell when they are in full on dinner mode...with my retic one moment she will be exploring around the cage and the next ill open in and she'll just start striking haha. I fed her last night so hopefully she won't be as hungry when I try to get her out tomorrow.
Oh and i've already seen tap training work! completely changes my red tail's attitude when I rub him on the head before taking him out...but I've had him for 2 years so he's gotten used to tap training.
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06-23-14, 10:24 AM
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Re: Advice for a tub-defensive retic?
^That's what I thought, typical retic response, she is still in feeding mode going to get her out
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06-23-14, 03:26 PM
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Re: Advice for a tub-defensive retic?
Hook train. Probably just a feed response. If you can get a video we can give you a better idea.
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06-23-14, 04:03 PM
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Re: Advice for a tub-defensive retic?
Perseverance mate, just keep tap training. Some of my youngsters are snappy little sods but once out the rubs they calm down, but I always 'tap' first no matter what I'm doing with them. Saying that my little lav caught me this morning LOL!
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06-23-14, 08:58 PM
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Re: Advice for a tub-defensive retic?
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Perseverance mate, just keep tap training. Some of my youngsters are snappy little sods but once out the rubs they calm down, but I always 'tap' first no matter what I'm doing with them. Saying that my little lav caught me this morning LOL!
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yeah I'm just going to keep at it. Just was worried about stressing her out and her not eating for me..again lol
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06-23-14, 09:13 PM
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Re: Advice for a tub-defensive retic?
Also, it might be a lot to do with her feeding response but, I also know she is scared because the other day when I took her out she musted all over my hand lol. Also, every time I hook her out of her tub she's alright but as soon as i touch her with my hand ..she freaks out
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06-24-14, 07:20 AM
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Re: Advice for a tub-defensive retic?
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Also, it might be a lot to do with her feeding response but, I also know she is scared because the other day when I took her out she musted all over my hand lol. Also, every time I hook her out of her tub she's alright but as soon as i touch her with my hand ..she freaks out
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Don't touch her, let her touch you first. Let her climb up your hand from the hook. She as to realize that this big warm thing is not going to eat me. I had a Coastal Jag that if i touch her first she freak but let her climb onto me and
she was be fine. After a few months i could pick her up without a hook.
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06-24-14, 11:49 AM
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Re: Advice for a tub-defensive retic?
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Don't touch her, let her touch you first. Let her climb up your hand from the hook. She as to realize that this big warm thing is not going to eat me. I had a Coastal Jag that if i touch her first she freak but let her climb onto me and
she was be fine. After a few months i could pick her up without a hook.
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Doesn't always work. I've got some that don't calm down until I place my hand on them but I ALWAYS have to get them out with a hook or I risk getting bit. If I leave them on the hook they just stress out.
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06-24-14, 10:46 PM
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Re: Advice for a tub-defensive retic?
Not sure if you've been tagged yet, but it honestly doesn't hurt.
This was done by my little retic, and to be honest, if I hadn't seen it, I may not of known that it happend.
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06-25-14, 06:22 AM
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Re: Advice for a tub-defensive retic?
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Not sure if you've been tagged yet, but it honestly doesn't hurt.
This was done by my little retic, and to be honest, if I hadn't seen it, I may not of known that it happend.
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Lol the key word here was LITTLE, if your going to be bitten now is the stage you want in to be done in,I've been lucky thus far to have not been tagged by mine but im sure that day is coming
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06-25-14, 06:49 AM
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Re: Advice for a tub-defensive retic?
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06-25-14, 07:23 AM
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Re: Advice for a tub-defensive retic?
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Yeah I remember that post, and he said it let go right away, imagine if he had latched on and took that dude for a ride what that outcome might have looked like, yeah no thanks ill pass on that
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