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08-17-12, 09:34 AM
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Boa Boy Roy
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The vision of a community
This is a great article posted today in "Daily Reptile News." Enjoy:
Daily Reptile News - The vision of a community
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08-17-12, 09:37 AM
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Re: The vision of a community
The most powerful words in that whole blog...
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This is a community damn it and we need to start acting like one.
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it's sad really.. The only reason Communism failed, is humans are wired all wrong for it to work.
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of knowledge to the nipples of ignorance?"
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08-17-12, 10:13 AM
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Re: The vision of a community
reptile keeping is an individual sport...always has been always will be
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08-17-12, 10:27 AM
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Re: The vision of a community
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reptile keeping is an individual sport...always has been always will be
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I think humanity is an individual sport.. everyone wants to be champion at something.
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08-17-12, 10:30 AM
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Re: The vision of a community
He does a great job of stating the problems but he doesn't offer much in the way of methods to correct them.
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08-17-12, 10:45 AM
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Re: The vision of a community
Yes, it's an individual "sport", but other groups have been able to organize an effective lobby and support system. To a certain degree that is a question of numbers, but it surely doesn't help that snake keeping exists somewhat in the shadows.
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11-21-12, 07:44 AM
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Re: The vision of a community
My job is to inform not solve. I mean, don't get it twisted I would fix ALL of the worlds problems if I knew how but that simply is not realistic. At this point, one thing I am sure of. If we don't come together our future WILL be doomed, there will be NO community and there will be NO individual hobbyist. Thank you for sharing my link and thank you everyone for you input.
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Originally Posted by Norm66
He does a great job of stating the problems but he doesn't offer much in the way of methods to correct them.
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11-21-12, 09:54 AM
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Re: The vision of a community
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Originally Posted by jasonw
My job is to inform not solve. I mean, don't get it twisted I would fix ALL of the worlds problems if I knew how but that simply is not realistic. At this point, one thing I am sure of. If we don't come together our future WILL be doomed, there will be NO community and there will be NO individual hobbyist. Thank you for sharing my link and thank you everyone for you input.
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Good God! Go somewhere else! You spread false information just because it's" easier". We really don't need people giving out false info as that is what will bring this hobby to its knees.
Btw how is your "red tail"?
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11-21-12, 02:26 PM
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Re: The vision of a community
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Originally Posted by jasonw
My job is to inform not solve. I mean, don't get it twisted I would fix ALL of the worlds problems if I knew how but that simply is not realistic. At this point, one thing I am sure of. If we don't come together our future WILL be doomed, there will be NO community and there will be NO individual hobbyist. Thank you for sharing my link and thank you everyone for you input.
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People have always bickered, and people always will bicker. I'm pretty sure the herpetological world's not gonna end.
~Maggot
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11-21-12, 08:41 PM
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slainte mhath
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Re: The vision of a community
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Originally Posted by EmbraceCalamity
People have always bickered, and people always will bicker. I'm pretty sure the herpetological world's not gonna end.
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i agree the Herpetological worlds not going to end,but it may get a lot tougher to keep the species we want,with your Government changing laws as we speak.....
and our European Government,pushing for new invasive species laws to be introduced...
meaning species that may thrive in some European Country's,being banned from Scotland,where they would die the first winter of there escape
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imo Herp Society's,clubs,etc need to stand together as one,instead of bickering amongst themselves,there are so called animal protection groups,attacking our hobby,trying for an out right ban...
reptile keepers need to stick together and focus on one thing.....
our hobby
cheers shaun
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11-21-12, 11:13 PM
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Re: The vision of a community
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Originally Posted by shaunyboy
i agree the Herpetological worlds not going to end,but it may get a lot tougher to keep the species we want,with your Government changing laws as we speak.....
and our European Government,pushing for new invasive species laws to be introduced...
meaning species that may thrive in some European Country's,being banned from Scotland,where they would die the first winter of there escape
re the UK
imo Herp Society's,clubs,etc need to stand together as one,instead of bickering amongst themselves,there are so called animal protection groups,attacking our hobby,trying for an out right ban...
reptile keepers need to stick together and focus on one thing.....
our hobby
cheers shaun
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They also need to make sure that they promote education and use correct information. This hobby has no room for educationalists who knowingly give crap info.
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11-22-12, 07:01 AM
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Re: The vision of a community
Korbin Explain what false info I passed.
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11-22-12, 07:46 AM
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Re: The vision of a community
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Korbin Explain what false info I passed.
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I will dig it up later.
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11-22-12, 08:09 AM
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Re: The vision of a community
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I will dig it up later.
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Dig it up later? So are you accusing me of doing something that you don't remember? I challenge you to dig it up now and get it over with.
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11-22-12, 09:05 AM
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Re: The vision of a community
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I had a feeling that was what this was about. I remembered the name from somewhere but was not sure. I of course will not get in this same debate with you and because I promised the administration privately that I would not break the rules in their TOS I will just leave it at that. The problem with the world is people like you, nuff said. If you don't like it then you can just not read or respond to anything I do, you however don't have the power to make me go away so I am sorry to say I will NOT go anywhere.
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I posted the link to show your attitude. Now go find a farm to sell your BS too.
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