milksnake update
I took someones advice on my previous thread! I am still wide awake so I thought I would test out the suggestion,kids are in bed all is quiet so I got Milkshake (thats what my daughter named her snake) and took him out of his enclosure and held him with a paper towel under him and no pee or poop or bites! YAY! Now I know I need to be the one that does the handling for awhile and at night after kids go to bed with the lights dim. Worked like a charm. Once I figure out how to quote someone on a new thread I will give credit where it is due. So keep my fingers crossed that he continues with this improvement!
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