Wtf is my burm doing?

RandyRhoads · 07-13-11, 09:18 PM

My burms always been a mood A hole, never calm. The last few days he's been having a hard time shedding. Last night I noticed his tail curled up. This morning I took him out to soak in the tub and noticed it looks like he defecated and it got trapped in the skin ( see video) and he can't unwrap his tail from the ball. He's flailing around like a fish out of water. Is this possibly IBD/ some sort of neurological disease? Or just a pissy burm in pain? His movement makes me think something else is seriously wrong?

The first video shows his balled up tail. Still uploading the second that shows him flailing around at dial up speed.

‪Burms bad shed‬&rlm; - YouTube

Gungirl · 07-13-11, 09:47 PM

aww I can't help you but I hope it goes away with the shed...

KD35WIN.AS.ONE · 07-13-11, 10:03 PM

Wow ive never seen anything like that... Time for a trip to the Vet... SOON.

Coffee Black · 07-13-11, 10:06 PM

If he doesn't get rid of that soon I would get it checked by a herp vet. Check for a rectal prolapse ( Inverted rectum.) There are a bunch of home remedies for them but I would try to find a vet who handles reptiles before I ever tried one. Good luck man ! From all the videos and things I've read it doesn't look like IBD. IBD usually has more upper body twisting and inversion and they don't eat. Your burm been eating?

Freebody · 07-13-11, 10:07 PM

vets trip real soon!!

Coffee Black · 07-13-11, 10:08 PM

Could just be scales covering cloaca or impaction. Head to a herp vet. Seriously, they are not usually very expensive.

NennaMeerkat · 07-13-11, 10:14 PM

Man that looks painful! As others have said...get him to a Herp Vet soon! Hope everything goes well and please, keep us updated!!

ilovemypets1988 · 07-14-11, 12:49 AM

please note that the following should only be done in desperation and in an emergency!!!

right, firstly i can read that hes aggressive but that you will have to put up with im affraid.

put him into a bath for 5 mins - and when i refer to bath time i do mean for only 5 mins at a time ok,

make sure you have 2 towels with you as ur gunna need them.

this is what to do:

bath him,
then wrap his tail in a towel just above the shed area,
use the other towel to cover his head; it will help to calm him down alittle.
gently grasp the towel covering the tail (same sort of grab as if you was holding a steering wheel while driving, firm but not tight)
get your snake to snake to slither through the towel.

then just repeat until the shed has removed but if after 30 mins, nothing happens then go to the vet as theres an underlining problem

hope that helps.

RandyRhoads · 07-14-11, 01:53 AM

While he was soaking he defecated so I don't think there's any problem with impaction or prolapse. I have to get the second video uploaded showing him flailing, it's weird right? He's always acted weird like this but this is a little more extreme. Somethings been up with him since I got him, and it seems to be getting worse and worse. Instead of calming down he's more fiesty and strange. I don't mean somethings up like the common RI but something neurologicaly. As you might have seen he flattens his ribs to almost being flat, my northern pacific rattlesnakes act loopy and do this too. Any chance he caught something from them to make him act this way?

Coffee Black I don't know where you live but the closest vet that takes herps to me is a couple hours, they're expensive, and they suck.

NennaMeerkat · 07-14-11, 01:59 AM

I saw your second video you had on your Youtube account and I am not seeing anything other than a pissed off snake that is probably in a bit of pain from a bad shed getting hung up on his tail. He also looked like from your two videos what my little hoggie does when she wants to get out of my hand. I am not really seeing anything that would suggest brain damage or something like that. Just stressed cause of bad shed + pain + being in a place it doesn't want to be.

RandyRhoads · 07-14-11, 02:04 AM

Here's the second one. It's not as bad as the stuff I didn't catch. Even when he was out of the water he was almost "jumping" straight up, flattening out and rolling over and over left and right .

‪Burms bad shed2‬&rlm; - YouTube

NennaMeerkat · 07-14-11, 03:00 AM

As I said before all I see is flailing due to stress and a stuck shed. If his head was lolling around and him unable to stay "upright" then I think there would be an issue. However his back half seems to be the part really rolling and that is probably because of the amount of discomfort he is feeling in his tail end.

NennaMeerkat · 07-14-11, 03:01 AM

THIS snake has IBD. Is yours doing this?

‪snake with ibd‬&rlm; - YouTube
‪Inclusion Body Disease (in a red tail boa)‬&rlm; - YouTube
‪Inclusion Body Virus‬&rlm; - YouTube

ilovemypets1988 · 07-14-11, 03:57 AM

just do what i said to do and everything will be fine, ive used that method before with a bad shed on my boa and it worked, within 10 minutes of going through the towel, the shed was gone and he settled down straight away!!

Jenn_06 · 07-14-11, 05:37 AM

In the last vid i see nothing wrong my retic hates baths and will do the same thing but with the tail can you take pics of it? After the bath did you try to help take some of the shed off the tail and see if that would help. Hope everything will work out good luck.